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#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 27, 2023 7:05:29 PM(UTC)
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Now that La Femme 2 is released,I wonder if somebody might make a detailed gen for her!!! Cheers


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#2 Posted : Thursday, September 28, 2023 12:06:43 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: arrow1 Go to Quoted Post


Now that La Femme 2 is released,I wonder if somebody might make a detailed gen for her!!! Cheers



 


Second that!


Neat ready fit Cunt model -with room for deep insertion and various forms.


Also decent morphs for pornstar, space babe, super-tits.


 


Probably too niche but I'd like an oriental lady with:


1 - a wildly large and flexible labia that looks like a butterfly


2 - Bound Feet


3 - pale white skin


 


Planning on an "Oriental Adventure" style expansion for a TTRPG I'm working on and it'd help


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#3 Posted : Thursday, September 28, 2023 11:01:58 AM(UTC)
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And I'll third that.....


She would be a useful addition if she had a decent genital set....


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#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 4, 2023 8:00:12 AM(UTC)
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I'm with all of you guys!

This new version brought many improvements but once again to be the Pro version and the most expensive they did not give importance to the genitals …

It seems that human anatomy is a taboo for the creators of this figure (Although the version of L’Homme did bring his genitals with all its functions).

They also did not add the controls for the genital area: “Mons Pubis”, “Right Labia” and “Left Labia” that the first version of La Femme does have available.

Erogenesis have the " Lali's Bits v1 " this creator could make a great job.

Can make a suggestion request here: "[email protected]" [email protected]


 

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#5 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2023 4:34:26 PM(UTC)
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I could be wrong but I think Erogenesis has bowed out of the lali's bits and anatomy modeling after Project Evolution and is now only concentrating on the comics.


Kink poser users asked for LaFemme bits but nobody would touch with a 10' pole and I had maybe 1 person ask if it was doing fits for LaFemme.  Poser just isn't getting support from a vendor POV in my opinion. Majority of my sales are DS so it's hard to justify all the work that goes into making a poser product.  I know that realistic vagina and anus on the level of Golden Palace and Advanced Pussy are incredibly hard to model and rig, then all the morphs, there just wouldn't be enough (again, in my opinion) return on the investment for modeling gens for LaFemme.  It's sad.


I'd be curious to know exactly how many people are actually purchasing Poser products here, it's hard to guage that kind of thing.


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#6 Posted : Friday, October 6, 2023 10:28:07 AM(UTC)
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@Davo.... I'm still a Poser user, I've invested too much money in it over the years, and too old to switch to DS, even though I would like to. I do have it on my PC, but I find it cumbersome to use compared to Poser. That said, I do agree with most of what you say. You know the software is finished [Poser], when even the owners of it don't sell much new stuff for it on their own platform....
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#7 Posted : Friday, October 6, 2023 11:04:43 AM(UTC)
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Davo,
Without erotic Poser products I'd not use this site anymore. Period.
I have a new hyped out computer, (20 core, 64 Gig) tried DAZ (including buying some items from here) it SUCKS. Can't beleive anyone ever used it.

I'm really moving into Blender and AI now - note Poser still has some use in that there are new tools that can be puppeted into it -and an AI module can be trained based on pictures to keywords so I can input my own images and countless still pics of poses to enhance later creations.

I still buy your stuff regularly near 100% new and sometimes other poser compatable products.
In principle I'd like to make some more figures that'd work in Poser and pose sets - but IMO It'd just waste time because the Admins here would likely reject it and they don't allow putting a link to an alternative site.
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Originally Posted by: davo Go to Quoted Post
I could be wrong but I think Erogenesis has bowed out of the lali's bits and anatomy modeling after Project Evolution and is now only concentrating on the comics.

I'd be curious to know exactly how many people are actually purchasing Poser products here, it's hard to guage that kind of thing.

Davo


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#8 Posted : Friday, October 6, 2023 3:56:52 PM(UTC)
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I use Poser and DAZ Studio. Cheers
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#9 Posted : Friday, October 6, 2023 5:01:12 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: arrow1 Go to Quoted Post


Now that La Femme 2 is released,I wonder if somebody might make a detailed gen for her!!! Cheers



Hear! hear!


(and a detailed gen for L'homme while we're at it)


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#10 Posted : Friday, October 6, 2023 7:42:52 PM(UTC)
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I got an idea:


 


We get someone who CAN do it - say Darkseal?


Get a sane bid on it - then we pitch in $ to compensate for time.


SALES of it get divvy'd up then between investors and go to ongoing shares after based on product and negotiation with person who made it.


 


On his own Darkseal has made some good morphs to get odd and not used but free/included figures up to basic use.


I can make morphs now and simple figures but an Audurino quality Vaginal morph/second part nope.  Well I could but it'd take too long and I have other things to do.


I'd like a few more - such as a surgery stomach peel morph for things like C-sections, a much better age/size range than Renderotica's whatever "Pro" morphs, MUCH better boob morphs.  I want "Long tits" aka "Witch Tits" that hang down.  Also I'd like wild vag morphs to pull it out.

BTW - Darkseal has a seperate vaginal prop I've used quite well.  Downside is you have to play a bit with the transparancy settings and figures in the materials rooms since a transparancy is needed for seeing the hole.


 


I paid Chocolate to make the realistic Vaginal morph and Tentacles hole 2 a while back.  I'd pitch in some $ for it if it'd do what I've been trying to do with a female 3d model in one form or antother for years. And if Renderotica doesn't like it there's other sites I just won't mention here since Poser is still used especially you know where...


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Breakdown


1 - Vaginal Morph including separate fitting figure so can have labia, clitoris, deep hole, wide penetration.


--bonus for wild "Butterfly" lips for geisha/orian fantasy


2 - Better body morphs than the "Pro" whatever on *deleted*.  I really regret buying them.  But full age from toddler to 70.  Better breasts, more of them.  Good pregnancy and full stomach/bladder.


--I'd like 'bound feet' - I'm working on some real sick Asian themed stuff for upcoming TTRPG expansion


-and shoes for them, both silk cover and kinky platform


3 - Breasts:


The biggest thing is LONG TITS.  I spit on "Political Correctness" but one thing I want is body positivity.  Witch tits turn me on.  Nice for women to feed kids with and easy to tie up to hang her by them for a while as discipline or just to have her look cute.  Thanks to mainstream porn and 'fashion' most ladies with them hide them or get surgery to get that nipple upwards.


This LaFemme figure  has the potential for long, flexible tits that also hang down not just balloon out as if they forgot the "Silicone String" 90s.


4 - Cut open - Darkseal already has some neat cut open stuff for surgery, autopsy, slashings etc.  Carry those on.  I'd like even a better peel back for a c-section of a full baby if possible.  I'd make some neat guts assortments again...!


----Would be neat for "Amputee" of them limbs at the hands and elbows and shoulders turning invisible/folding in on themselves to make smooth stumps?


 


Tall order but word of mouth to ...osity would get people coming here (or alt if no-go here) to buy it since again the "Pro" stuff SUCKS unless you want to make a "Realistic Gaming Grrl".. Just One Man's Opinion...



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#11 Posted : Saturday, October 7, 2023 1:55:34 AM(UTC)
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As a user and vendor, I am with Davo, people need to be realistic. Poser died long ago and the last quality figure that worked with it was released almost 20 years ago. Every third party figure trying to fill the gap is worse than the other and people forget about it the next week. Of course no vendor is going to waste time on it. We can't work hard on something that 3 people are going to use. 


If you want to use Poser, that's your choice, but it's been basically abandonware since like a decade ago. If you need varied, quality content and detailed, porn-oriented genitals, only DAZ Studio and Genesis will deliver.


 


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#12 Posted : Friday, November 24, 2023 3:48:33 PM(UTC)
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From Charles Taylor of Poser 13 Team with status of Resolved 11/23/23 5:42 PM


 


Q : Will Poser ever be able to support geo grafting for example in La Femme 2


A : There is a way to geo-graft in Poser it's just not as intuitive. Starting from the Figure's original geometry file (not a OBJ exported from a Poser scene) Save out the body part group (hip) in your 3D editor of choice.


  • Make whatever modifications you need but don't move the border vertexes, where it will meet up with the other body parts.
  • Inside Poser load the intended Frankenstein figure. Make sure the figure is zeroed. (Figure > Zero Figure). Set the skin method for the figure to Traditional (Figure > Skinning method)
  • import the new body part.
  • Select the body part on the figure to replace (hip)
  • Object > Replace body part with prop.
  • At this point the morphs an rig are probably wrecked. That's OK
  • Save your new creation to the library and make sure to Let Poser create a new OBJ (that will say creators only but we're creating)
  • New scene and load your Frankenstein and then load the stock version of the figure.
  • Select the Frankenstein and Figure > Copy Joint Zones ... select the stock figure and set the tessellation to 0
  • Now go to Figure > Copy morphs from ... Select the stock figure and the morphs to repair (probably all of them) set the tessellation to 2
  • Set the skinning method back to Poser Unimesh
  • Save your finished Frankenstein to the library, let Poser create a new OBJ if it asks.

This process will be automated at some point in the future.


You can even get really crazy and modify the entire figure's geometry and replace it using the Rig and morph copy techniques. Weight map and morph copy have been drastically improved in P13 with more improvement to come.


I was talking to Meipe, the creator of Golden Palace, and he had a issue about geo-grafting, which I later resolved by talking to Charles Taylor of the Poser 13 Team. Now I’m just waiting for a response from Meipe, who might create a version of Golden Palace for La Femme 2. I’ll keep you updated on his response.


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#13 Posted : Monday, December 4, 2023 1:41:57 PM(UTC)
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Centenox, your mailbox is full.

Sutut, thanks for the confidence!

I would love for you all to throw me some cash to make this for sure... I will give it a go. I hope you all buy it. I have not been making items for the last few years because of the lack of sales when I do. It's really difficult to spend a few weeks making something to see no sales. I know most of my items are cartoon. As Hellboy said, people want realism. I am just not used to Daz, so Ive never made the transition. While poser, and the last good figure they had, might be 20 years old, it's still one of the most valid figures available today. Poser, being abandonware, is still better (in my own opinion, no fighting) when it comes to the tools and documentation available.


The figure I'll be making (or prop) will use a transparency map... I imagine. I cannot see a way, currently, to both make the geografted vagina addon AND have morphs AND be legal. So, it's 2 out of 3. Geografted legal would have no morphs, since the OBJ result could not be distributed. Since this obj would not be able to be distributed you could not have morphs, the vertice order would not match for people wanting to do the steps themselves and have existing morphs in the cr2. Without being the original creator, everything Centenox said IS possible to do, it's just not legal to sell/give away, it's a shit show for redistribution.... UNLESS, UNLESS of course, someone can answer me this: When poser switched to that other place that will not be named, all poser legacy content went cc0. Now, if the license for the LaFemme2 has some kind of Poser specific license I am unaware of, and would allow for the use of the contents, in an edited form, to BE redistributed, I am listening. I would love to supply a geografted solution for poser, but I don't see it atm.

I'll be looking at vajajays today to get started on a model. God help us all.
 


Edit: Ps: While it's "easy" to find the pro textures, I don't own them, so this would not match the current textures available. I only have the lite version, skin is "clothed". I'll be needing to paint a full body texture to match the new gen. If anyone would like to contact the makers of LaFemme2 and ask if they could yeet me a propack or just the skin textures alone, I would paint to match. But atm it's goin to be a full custom job.

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Greetings Darkseal!


I will get in touch with Charles Taylor to see how things can be arranged and establish communication with you to reach a potential agreement, whether it's a percentage of each sale of La Femme 2 or your creation. From a growth perspective, I don't see it as a loss for either party, but rather an opportunity for mutual gain. I asked him if he would like to directly contact you to discuss and negotiate. For now, I will immediately reach out to them and keep you informed of any updates.


 


P.D. My mail is back in space thanks for the advice! ++

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#15 Posted : Monday, December 4, 2023 2:53:34 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Centenox! I hope to hear from him. If he could gift me the skin to match that would be great, if not, I'll just have to paint one. It would be awesome if I could get it to match the original though. Or if we could make a trade :P
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Originally Posted by: Darkseal Go to Quoted Post
Thanks Centenox! I hope to hear from him. If he could gift me the skin to match that would be great, if not, I'll just have to paint one. It would be awesome if I could get it to match the original though. Or if we could make a trade :P


 


I already reach a replay to your request send it to PM! Let me know what do you think or what's next... If you need components from the Pro version they can probably work something out with you. 


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#17 Posted : Monday, December 4, 2023 5:14:29 PM(UTC)
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Ok, just for transparency, I'm writing this here:


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Greetings Darkseal,

I contacted Charles Taylor regarding your inquiry, and this was his response:

Charles Taylor posted 12/4/23 4:35 PM

First off La Femme LITE is a vendor resource. If the figure, OBJ and textures are modified they can be redistributed with out any special permissions. Replacing the hip of the figure with one that has modeled gens would definitely apply as a derivative work. That covers the geometry (OBJ) and figure (CR2). The included textures are resources and modified maps (PNG / JPG) can also be redistributed.

""



So, it looks like I will not need pro pack skin, I will see what I can do about making modded figure from this vendor resource. Thank you Centenox for contacting him for me.


Unless you all don't think that's a "good idea" to make a new figure with gen.... I would love to hear what you all think.


 


New figure, I have to make new morphs and skin, but the gen is included. This would be a branch off, not going to work with "full body morphs" made from other people in the hip body part.


New add-on figure, Uses transparency maps and is seperate. Original figure is not alterered for universal use.


 


 


Let me know before I start!

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#18 Posted : Monday, December 4, 2023 9:08:25 PM(UTC)
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Work has started. I have gone ahead to start modeling in the figure. Worst case scenario I cut it out and make it an add on. We will see how backwards compatible I can make it.


 


 

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#19 Posted : Tuesday, December 5, 2023 12:40:10 PM(UTC)
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Update. Have suggestions on it's beginning shape? Does it need something somewhere? Chime in now or forever hold you peace! I'll be working on it some more, but I would like feedback so I know what anyone is thinking. If it's possible I'll try! I am using many references, giggity. This may not be the final / resting shape, just looking it over. I think everything for morphs can be done from here. What do you think?


edit: Interior image show current volume. I'll be changing the shape a bit, just wanted to show resolution.


 


 


 


 

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#20 Posted : Tuesday, December 5, 2023 1:32:35 PM(UTC)
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I think the exterior might be finished as far as geometry resolution goes. I think now I should try to add to the interior details... Wish me luck, and I hope to get feedback.


 


Edit: additional interior detail geometry added. This should be plenty to detail and stretch/pull/etc...

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