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This. All of this.

You also see a lot of the under 30's modding Unreal and SFM models from video games and doing so in Blender and proprietary readers. There's a whole crop of artists that aren't even going the Daz route, nonetheless the Poser one.

Originally Posted by: diogenese19348

Guys, this really is a Smith Micro problem and DAZ has nothing to do with it. The reason Poser Items are selling less and less is Poser is not attracting new users because Smith Micro is useless at marketing to end users. When was the last time you saw an ad for Poser Software? You do realize you are all long term Poser users, do you see any short term ones around?

To put it bluntly, who under the age of 30 knows anything about Poser? They are going to use DAZ, Blender, the Unreal Engine, Iclone, for pities sake check out those sites to see how they market. Then go look at Smith Micro and Poser and relive the 2000's vintage marketing. And DAZ is the reason Poser is dying? Really??

If you are creating your own content in Poser, good for you, keep using it. Just keep in mind the reality is that there isn't any new generation of users coming and attrition is hell.

@darkseal

Yeah I dunno man.  I made the switch to DS in 2013 or so after using Poser since 2001.  It was initially a pain, but after I figured out how easy and intuitive the interface is, I actually go into fits of rage anytime I have to go into Poser for anything at how shit it is to use.

My point... my conversion took about 3 days after learning how to adjust the DS interface to how you want.  Sadly now I have 3 Octane licenses I don't use, because I prefer Iray.

My images have improved like...  I still use your stuff in DS... Just used the beholder for my next project this month.

Originally Posted by: SnarltheWerewolf

This. All of this.

You also see a lot of the under 30's modding Unreal and SFM models from video games and doing so in Blender and proprietary readers. There's a whole crop of artists that aren't even going the Daz route, nonetheless the Poser one.

I would say that the two programs, Blender and Daz does not even attract the same type of people because even though you do 3D Renders in both - Daz is so limited compared to Blender. The only(?) upside Daz has is time (which can be a huge upside), because you have a (well multiple) store(s) filled with assets made by other people so all you have to do is spend some cash and start composing a render. You're more likely to invest time in Blender than you are investing money. Sure you can import objects and what not into Blender, but if you're going to do a whole scene based off other people's work you're better of using something like Daz.

Whereas Poser and Daz are somewhat similar in how you use them and what you use them for, although compared to Daz I found Poser incredibly confusing, I honestly couldn't even get a proper scene going. whereas in Daz you can get a scene going in five minutes - it might not be world class, but at least you're getting somewhere, you see results fairly quickly. Daz operates like a slightly worse version of Blender (that GUI is smooth as hell), which is pretty damn good. Anyway my point was actually just that those people who use Blender would have no use for Daz or Poser. Using Blender is more akin to using ZBrush than Daz or Poser. 

Originally Posted by: Thunder-3D

Originally Posted by: Darkseal

I think there is, but for me to find it I'm trying to ask for people feedback and suggestions. I've gotten none.

Darkseal, you make awesome stuff. Come join us on the dark side, make Studio products. 

Yes, yes.  I second the motion.  Especially sme of your bondage/fetish items.

BTW are you or any others working on genitals for LaFemme? - I don't think so, I played with her for an hour... I don't see it happening, at least from me.

Darkseal, you make awesome stuff. Come join us on the dark side, make Studio products.   - I might. I might have to force myself to "like" daz.

Yes, yes.  I second the motion.  Especially sme of your bondage/fetish items.   -  Yeah... I have gotten better too, it would be the first type thing to do!

Anyone know of any up to date content creation tutorials?? I would need them. I don't even know how to save item to the library or what kind of steps I would need to do.

... and if so, it's just that easy to get seduced by the darkside. I can to defend poser and ended up in my late night supor asking for tutorials to learn how to switch to daz. Is Iray even updated to work on an RTX yet? I know I had to buy a new Octane, and superfly no longer works for me at all on this new card. (cause poser hasn't updated for support)

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Darkseal's Store

That is actually very good news, now maybe Poser will be revived and not allowed the slow death of a thousand cuts that's been happening for the last few years.

My only concern is will they have deep enough pockets to enable this.

I think that what needs to be done is have a Male figure created by the Le Femme creators

Now this might never happen as vendors seem to favor female products to make products by a margin of 50 to 1 or greater.

Obviaously male items just do not sell  and I scoop up new textures whenever I can

Originally Posted by: Darkseal

gazukull, are you talking from a creators point of view? Like, it only took you 3 days to get familiar with making a figure? Or are you talking from a end user point of view, like it only took 3 days to get used to daz to render out some images? 'Cause we might be talking about 2 totally different things.

Oh yeah, no as an end user comic creator.  I am sure the process of being a figure creator would take a little bit more.  BUT as an end user, I can say using DS over Poser increased my production rate exponentially.  Like... Not having a scene tab in Poser is infuriating, and there is the hierarchy tab but it has like 1/10 the functionality of the DS scene tab.  

Or even a simple thing that could be done in Poser... having the materials be in the same place as the figure?  FUCKING CRAZY!

Either way, I keep buying your stuff, cuz it all works great in DS.