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The best I got so far (with manual setup, step 1 dicktator, then change in dicktator the UV to PBR), then copy Mat then the Shell, but it's still doesn't work well. https://ibb.co/0K9r75P

I quite discouraged as I try for like the last 12 hours :(

Edited by user Wednesday, December 20, 2023 7:52:18 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Originally Posted by: TheBitterGent

Are you changing the DCK shell's offset?

Yes, the shaft, glans, etc., 'move,' but the root shell of the dick doesn't really. I also tried to move the geometry in the mesh editor, but that was worst because I lost a lot of information—the dick was 'cut' XD. All my tests were done using the RSSY material suit. I just woke up, so... I'm going to try with Legacy UVs and see if the results differ, as it doesn't use the same technique as RSSY

Edited by user Thursday, December 21, 2023 5:57:57 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Edited by user Friday, December 22, 2023 2:08:13 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Originally Posted by: TheBitterGent

Does the Mat Suit graft the groin area, that would cause it to not fit?
Does it work with Mat Suit on other Characters? Meaning this isn't a Mat Suit issue but rather a Character Morph issue?

Na, I tried converting other characters and same issue occurs on all the 8.1 char with Dicktator G9.

Originally Posted by: TheBitterGent

Might just be easier to update the characters mats to G9 and abandon the G8 skin.

Yeah, the issue is to find another skin close enough to the previous one. One of my char was using a standard skin, and I had no issue in converting, having dicktator, etc. working without any issue. But I have many characters with non-daz standard skin... and skin is like character identity so not so easy to abandon the skin :(

I tried something like, comparing the surfaces (iray / pbr / 3dlight), that how I understood the issue came from "torso_back", so I tried many things in order to get the right texture, cause here I think he's not getting the right one from... somewhere, but I think I'd need to understand what source / location dicktator look at to fill that part of the texture/shell (and mainly the transluence color)

G8M and G8.1M with their respective DCKs Mat Presets added in Iray View.
Look like their Cutout Opacities maps are displaying the black portion maybe UV but the darker greenish hue also makes it look like 4.22s iray preview is more a darkened filament preview than an iray.

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It seems to be that 'Thin Walled" is preset to OFF on the Shell. Same for GP, BRST, FUT, DCK, HL. Turning Thin Walled ON fixes the preview.

Edited by user Saturday, February 24, 2024 3:55:22 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Possible error fix found

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Originally Posted by: jeremion

Don't know if that explains the grey / white squares on the ass

It's a problem with UVs.

Dicktator's 'default UVs' are based on G9's UVs, not on G8M's UVs. So, if you set the main character's UVs to G8 with some converter, you get seams on Dicktator's front and white areas on its back.

Originally Posted by: jeremion

Originally Posted by: Meipe

Originally Posted by: jeremion

Don't know if that explains the grey / white squares on the ass

It's a problem with UVs.

Dicktator's 'default UVs' are based on G9's UVs, not on G8M's UVs. So, if you set the main character's UVs to G8 with some converter, you get seams on Dicktator's front and white areas on its back.

 

Thanks Meipe, so, no workaround I guess ?

 

Change the UV, or copy the mats from a non converted (w/e race) g9's dck and paste it on the converted g9's dck. As long as the DCK maintains the UV it should be colorable with standard presets.

If you had an ogre, demon, or scarface with a slashed tip or something it'd be different.

Originally Posted by: jeremion

OK, I see. I think with all of that I have a begining of an answer.
Just to see how it looked, I apply the UDIM UV with the 8.1 skin applied. Looking at this ass, I see where comes from the issue of my square. So, actually, one of a little fix would be to "just" expand his skin on the body texture, and recopy dicktator material on the same char. I made a really quick test to see how it goes (i just copy/past the ass and scaling it up. If we dont care about the color, we can see the right glutes is "fixed" (where I extended the texture) https://ibb.co/mtfHTkP

Have the begining of someting :D

Edit : well, works well in texture shaded, but not in iray xD

Well does it work in spot render? Because as I was saying the shell previews in 4.22 iray preview are fubar right now, at least for me. The way yours is cut looks like a simple UV mismatch mine is a DS bug.

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