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About the morphs... La Femme 2 still have on full body / Controls /
Expression Controls - Hide === Show
Expression Chips - Hide === Show
Body Pose Chips - Hide === Show
La Femme 2 head / Eye Control /
Eye + Lids /
Eye + Lids Side-Side
Eye + Lids Up-Down
Also, still compatible with extra packs? for example like:
FaceFX Morphs for La Femme 2
BodyFX Morphs for La Femme 2
Dorotea La Femme Pro (or other already available characters morphs)
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Centenox, all controls are still there, the bones exist and work. Currently I lost the chips, I did not realize they were made of body polygons (i think) and lost them in the clean up of the figure. But they still hide / remove, they still work, some better than before like the breasts and labia controls. I am thinking of a way to add the chips back, but all the function is still there. As for existing morph packs, the hip geometry has changed, so "full body morphs" will break in the hip, anything hip related will not work from outside packs. All face and the rest of the body "should" work fine, since nothing else has changed.
Edit: But I can never be 100% sure until someone else tries. Edited by user Tuesday, December 19, 2023 11:19:54 AM(UTC)
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After poking around the original I cannot seem to understand where the chips came from or how to get them back. All of the handles still work, they just done have the pretty/translucent boxes, instead they are all regular bone handles. I was about to start rendering images after that, but then realised I had almost forgotten to make eye morphs! So I made a few.
I think I will start rendering after this. The only question is, how do I show it all without it looking stupid? I have so many morphs here. I'll need to count them all up, take a screenshot of all the folders.
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total transparency: JCM's are fucked. I don't know why. But when I use both bend and side to side at the same time they break on the arm and the thigh. I'm going to have to remake them.
Every time I am about to render images I see there is something else that has broken. This is the last item that could have broken, so it did. It looks like I have a full day of JCM's to make. But honestly... I may try to do what I need with weight mapped bulges. This would be better for clothing anyway.
EDIT: I am comparing a figure with all JCM's removed and the original figure...... the difference is almost 0. I conclude no reason for JCM's on this figure. I may still edit the bulge zones, but then I probably shouldn't The whole point was to mimic the original figure and simply add a genital set. I know we are far away from this now, what with all the morphs, but I just want everyone to be aware. Let me know what you think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by: Darkseal 
EDIT: I am comparing a figure with all JCM's removed and the original figure...... the difference is almost 0. I conclude no reason for JCM's on this figure. I may still edit the bulge zones, but then I probably shouldn't The whole point was to mimic the original figure and simply add a genital set. I know we are far away from this now, what with all the morphs, but I just want everyone to be aware. Let me know what you think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a big project and is not a easy task but almost you're finding and fixing errors in the process looking the best way to manage it. This could delay but is going to be worth in the end. 
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Yeah Centenox, I inspect every bone on the figure. It takes awhile, but I think I've found everything now. I'm sure I caused more issues for myself by simply importing it into maya, on day1, with the wrong settings checked. I'f I had to do it over I might have saved myself 2 days, but it's really expected (for me) on figures one doesn't make themselves.
I hope to be really rendering my images today, at least start on them. The figure itself, barring finding some new quirk, is finished. I have yet to count up or take screenshots of all the folders and morphs, but when I do, you'll all know it here!
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Impossible fit morphs. vaginal set to 75%, anal set to 50%. DO you think these will work for Product images? Let me know.
edit: more images added
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Superb! I love the renders just add some vagina and anus variations in a collage showing the different possibilities and some extra renders of LF 2 interactions with Darkseal's ManMeat 2.0 , John Doe Torso or any toy from your own store. That will have another point of view about how looks LF 2 in action and in the same time could be a great promo to your other magnificent creations. Some .gif animations for the listing will be a plus! I'm amazed! Edited by user Monday, December 18, 2023 5:59:39 PM(UTC)
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I wanted to post a gif for you all here Centenox, but it seems there are no gif upload option. Invalid format. So, I had to makea music video for you instead. Why can't I use Mp4 or Gif here?
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Funny as hell the beat speaker! XD But Wow! The vaginal capacity is massive without any distortions!
Better than expected! She can give birth to a 32-year-old dwarf down there.
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Full Transparency: There is a thread over on that other place, with the creator of LaFemme2, Afrodite-Ohki , who states I would have to purchase the pro pack to use the dev rig to release content. This does not follow along with what was said by Charles Taylor in conversation about the LaFemme2 Lite content with Centenox, nor does it follow along with the known EULA of the Poser software. I am waiting to see if there is any update from the CEO, Tim, to Afrodite-Ohki.
As for the figure, she (the CR2) is now complete. I have finished rendering images and must now write the readme file. I hate readme files. Expect a day or two before I upload to the store to begin testing, but expect me to wait to hear back from Afrodite-Ohki first. I dislike this Daz3D monetization method of a Poser supplied figure, but this doesn't jive with the current license agreement. The Pro Pack has a separate license, that tries to contradict the original. Edited by user Tuesday, December 19, 2023 1:45:25 PM(UTC)
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The thread going at R'osity contains a lot of mis-information because of confusion about which license content included with poser is released under. They're reading the Rendo store licenese and believing it applies to the content included with Poser. La Femme Lite is included with Poser therefore covered by Poser's EULA. Which ...
Isn't on the store page like it's supposed to be ... nobody noticed.
So. I'm working with Bondware to make sure that gets fixed. In the mean time La Femme 2 Lite (and only the lite versions) is a "Vendor Resource" The EULA for Poser 12 will contain the same details about what exactly a Vendor Resource is That EULA is in the Poser 12 manual wher it's supposed to be.
I'll steel my will and step into that threaad at Rendo when the manual on the store page is updated.
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Originally Posted by: nerd
The thread going at R'osity contains a lot of mis-information because of confusion about which license content included with poser is released under. They're reading the Rendo store licenese and believing it applies to the content included with Poser. La Femme Lite is included with Poser therefore covered by Poser's EULA. Which ...
Isn't on the store page like it's supposed to be ... nobody noticed.
So. I'm working with Bondware to make sure that gets fixed. In the mean time La Femme 2 Lite (and only the lite versions) is a "Vendor Resource" The EULA for Poser 12 will contain the same details about what exactly a Vendor Resource is That EULA is in the Poser 12 manual wher it's supposed to be.
I'll steel my will and step into that threaad at Rendo when the manual on the store page is updated.
Thank you for the clarification Nerd3D! My only hope is you (or someone) informs Afrodite-Ohki of the terms of licensing when included inside of the poser software eula umbrella. The updated Pro license does not include the geometry, which I do not own, so no worries there for me.
I really appreciate the weigh in so quickly so I can move forward with release!
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Ok everyone, I've just dropped off the product zip and created the product listing. Let us bow our heads and pray I didn't mess up product submission guidelines. It's been awhile, but I did take the time to use the guidline pdf as a check list.
It IS Christmas Time, so who knows.... Santa might just pay us a visit!
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AMAZING!!Hmm... there's many eyes with great interest on Poser 13 and this amazing contribution... 
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I sure hope so! Praying it passes the store review quickly so it can be a merry Christmas / happy holidays for all!
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Damn, only just seen this thread, don't look at these forums that often. Been following the one at the other place.
Much thanks for doing this Darkseal, I'm a definite purchaser here, it will be nice to use a figure other than V4...
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Glad to see you drop by Fixer, thanks for chiming in over there (and here!) I haven't been around much either. I hope to be around a bit more, maybe start making more items for Poser again!
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