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#1 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2021 12:00:12 AM(UTC)
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Newbie here,


 


Just trying to get some direction on how to put two figures male and female in sex pose. I know how to add two characters to the scene but just can't seem to add them together in a sexual act (such as doggystyle (penis in vagina). I purchased some poses from here that include the male and female but just can't seem to get it right.


Any direction would be greatly appreciated.


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#2 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2021 1:16:30 AM(UTC)
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well if daz has anything like poser's parenting this is how it works


load your naked female base  I use V4 and then your male base, ergo for me  M4.


Set both bases to  Zero pose so the bodies overlap each other.   some sex set have a set figures to Zero pose option


Next, pick the male figure and set the male sex pose.  Then select the female figure and use the pose set for her.


Now they should be in the right position ...  now Parent the female figure to the male figure so that if you select one of the other sex poses for the male and female , the two figures should retain the new poses 


when your done, select the female base figure and go to parenting and set None or Universe at least that is how it done with poser


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#3 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2021 1:19:28 AM(UTC)
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What exactly is the problem? Unless you're using the very base characters and the same genital products that the pose pack uses (if it even does use them) you'll need to tweak the pose a bit to have everything align exactly. Are you not moving the joint of the characters? nothing is going to likely "just work" because of the vast differences morphs will create on characters. Height and proportions are going to make things not align exactly.


 


I often use normal (non-sexual) poses to get certain scenes I want, but you have to adjust things to a lesser or greater degree depending on what characters or morphs you are using.


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#4 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2021 1:21:21 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: shadoman Go to Quoted Post


well if daz has anything like poser's parenting this is how it works


load your naked female base  I use V4 and then your male base, ergo for me  M4.


Set both bases to  Zero pose so the bodies overlap each other.   some sex set have a set figures to Zero pose option


Next, pick the male figure and set the male sex pose.  Then select the female figure and use the pose set for her.


Now they should be in the right position ...  now Parent the female figure to the male figure so that if you select one of the other sex poses for the male and female , the two figures should retain the new poses 


when your done, select the female base figure and go to parenting and set None or Universe at least that is how it done with poser



 


In daz they shouldn't need to do these steps, just pretty much load the pose on each of the figures and then do some small adjusting to the rotations.


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Yeah, we need more details about your issue.


As said above, in DAZ Studio you only need to apply the pose preset for each character and that's it. 


The shape differences between your complete character and the base Genesis will make the poses not align perfectly. Just select the body parts you want to adjust and bend/rotate as needed. You can also drag them easily into position with the ActivePose Tool.


Also, you need to apply poses specifically for the figure they were created. Genesis 3 poses won't look good on Genesis 8 because of the rigging and default pose differences. (Genesis 8 and Genesis 8.1 use the same poses).


If you need to apply poses on a figure they were not created for, there are free and paid products to convert them.


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Rickberge  
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Thanks everyone for the feedback. Here is some more detailed information


  • Yes I am using DazStudio instead of Poser
  • I have the correct models for the correct Poses. For example, I am using Genesis 8 male and female and the poses I have purchased are aligned with those characters.
  • I know how to for example ,select the Genesis 8 female and put her in a doggystyle pose (based off the pose I have purchased). My issue comes when I add the male, sometimes he is just way out of position. Granted if I have to play/adjust the position to get him right behind her then that is fine. I just figured if there was an easier way or a way to load both poses (male and female) at the same time so they would already be in line together.
  • Also, I ask is there any tutorial on creating XXX content? Just the basics such as a step by step process to uploading your figures and puting them in the XXX (M/F or F/F, etc...) poses?

Once again thanks for the feedback. I'm pretty new at this but I do have a little experience modding games but not to the point of creating content.


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#7 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2021 2:55:11 PM(UTC)
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Since I was already making a video for someone else, I figured I could make a quick one here too.


youtu.be/u_0g7Mw-QxY


Just some tips on posing. 


Here's a link for the super mini pose pack I made that I used in the video, it also has the characters and a shape preset for dicktator. You'll likely get a lot of errors loading the characters, due to missing morphs and textures, but you can try them out if you want.


 


File Attachment(s):
Full Nelson with Genitals.zip (1,399kb) downloaded 2 time(s).
Rickberge  
#8 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2021 4:31:35 PM(UTC)
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Okay thank you for this. I will definitely check it out.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2021 7:43:31 PM(UTC)
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lol, well that didn't last long. Youtube took that video down, even though I age-restricted it and kept it unlisted, oh well, hopefully you saw it.


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The couples poses that I have bought here never seem to have any problems pairing the figures up in a good approximation of where they're supposed to be, assuming that you have not moved them from their default loading position. If you have, they may not load properly. This applies to sets from Thunder3D, Layla, Lazzy Dog, Ostwind, and so on. Forgive me if I left any out. ;)


Now, unless you are using a set of default figures, you may still, hell, you WILL have to move them around a bit to get everything to line up. I never, ever, ever make a scene with a default figure, not ever. My characters are shorter, taller, fatter, or skinnier than the default G8. I'll sometimes spend days creating them before I save them to the library. So, I almost always have to tweak the poses to get everything to look as it should. This is not a fault in the product! Rather, it's a limitation on what can be done with Studio at this point. If you're using a custom character, expect that you'll have to make adjustments to the pose to eliminate hands clipping into the body, or figures clipping into each other. 


Now, you say you're a newbie. That's cool, new people getting into this hobby keeps it fresh and alive. I've been doing this for twenty years, and I still have a lot to learn. So, let me save you a little bit of time in creating an image. As I mentioned, I like to build a character and save it to my library so that I can load it into a scene later. This is my method: step one is obviously creating the character itself. Load it up with a texture, genitals, hair, jewelry, clothing, whatever you want. Once you're satisfied with it, you'll want to save it somewhere. For my method, I selected the 'scene builder' folder that already exists in the library, and created a folder called 'characters'. All of my creations go there. To save them, click on the little '+' box at the bottom of the library, whatever folder you choose to save the character to. This will bring up a submenu. Select to save the character as a 'scene subset'. This will bring up a popup, with everything that you have in the scene. Everything that you leave checked will be saved, and loaded again when you select the character later. Deselect everything that isn't part of the character, such as cameras, lights, the stupid tonemapper thing, and so on, then click 'OK' or 'Save' or whatever it says, I forget at the moment. This will save your ready character to use later. 


You can also do this with more than one character, if you have a coupled couple ready to go. What I do is this: parent one character to the other. This will allow you to move them around the scene as a unit when you reload them, if you select the master character, not the parented character. The process is the same. Select the folder you want to save the pair to, mine is called 'scene presets'. This is for anything that I put together that isn't a simple character, such as a pairing, an environment, a room, or a complex prop. Again, select to save it as a 'scene subset'. You will get the same popup, and the process is the same. Assuming that one character is successfully parented to the other, only the master character will be visible as an option. Deselect everything that isn't part of the pairing, like lights, cameras, etc. and save it. Now, you can load the pair ready to go into any scene you've created. I like this method because it is far less distracting and resource intensive than trying to create a pairing while the system is also contending with everything else loaded in the scene. You're basically prefabbing the scene, building it in parts to be assembled later. Using a bare scene to assemble the couples pose gives you a better view of what's happening, especially where the figures touch and interact, without elements of the scene unavoidably getting in the way. 


But as I mentioned earlier, all of the couples poses that I've purchased here work great at getting the figures onto the correct position, as long as they're applied from the default loading pose. From there, you can move them around all you want. 


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Originally Posted by: BrimstoneOmega Go to Quoted Post
lol, well that didn't last long. Youtube took that video down, even though I age-restricted it and kept it unlisted, oh well, hopefully you saw it.


Just got off work so no I wasn't able to look at it but thanks for taking the time to do that.
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Originally Posted by: matt Go to Quoted Post
The couples poses that I have bought here never seem to have any problems pairing the figures up in a good approximation of where they're supposed to be, assuming that you have not moved them from their default loading position. If you have, they may not load properly. This applies to sets from Thunder3D, Layla, Lazzy Dog, Ostwind, and so on. Forgive me if I left any out. ;)

Now, unless you are using a set of default figures, you may still, hell, you WILL have to move them around a bit to get everything to line up. I never, ever, ever make a scene with a default figure, not ever. My characters are shorter, taller, fatter, or skinnier than the default G8. I'll sometimes spend days creating them before I save them to the library. So, I almost always have to tweak the poses to get everything to look as it should. This is not a fault in the product! Rather, it's a limitation on what can be done with Studio at this point. If you're using a custom character, expect that you'll have to make adjustments to the pose to eliminate hands clipping into the body, or figures clipping into each other.

Now, you say you're a newbie. That's cool, new people getting into this hobby keeps it fresh and alive. I've been doing this for twenty years, and I still have a lot to learn. So, let me save you a little bit of time in creating an image. As I mentioned, I like to build a character and save it to my library so that I can load it into a scene later. This is my method: step one is obviously creating the character itself. Load it up with a texture, genitals, hair, jewelry, clothing, whatever you want. Once you're satisfied with it, you'll want to save it somewhere. For my method, I selected the 'scene builder' folder that already exists in the library, and created a folder called 'characters'. All of my creations go there. To save them, click on the little '+' box at the bottom of the library, whatever folder you choose to save the character to. This will bring up a submenu. Select to save the character as a 'scene subset'. This will bring up a popup, with everything that you have in the scene. Everything that you leave checked will be saved, and loaded again when you select the character later. Deselect everything that isn't part of the character, such as cameras, lights, the stupid tonemapper thing, and so on, then click 'OK' or 'Save' or whatever it says, I forget at the moment. This will save your ready character to use later.

You can also do this with more than one character, if you have a coupled couple ready to go. What I do is this: parent one character to the other. This will allow you to move them around the scene as a unit when you reload them, if you select the master character, not the parented character. The process is the same. Select the folder you want to save the pair to, mine is called 'scene presets'. This is for anything that I put together that isn't a simple character, such as a pairing, an environment, a room, or a complex prop. Again, select to save it as a 'scene subset'. You will get the same popup, and the process is the same. Assuming that one character is successfully parented to the other, only the master character will be visible as an option. Deselect everything that isn't part of the pairing, like lights, cameras, etc. and save it. Now, you can load the pair ready to go into any scene you've created. I like this method because it is far less distracting and resource intensive than trying to create a pairing while the system is also contending with everything else loaded in the scene. You're basically prefabbing the scene, building it in parts to be assembled later. Using a bare scene to assemble the couples pose gives you a better view of what's happening, especially where the figures touch and interact, without elements of the scene unavoidably getting in the way.

But as I mentioned earlier, all of the couples poses that I've purchased here work great at getting the figures onto the correct position, as long as they're applied from the default loading pose. From there, you can move them around all you want.


Thanks for the step by step process. Im going to play with it tonight. But basically the best strategy is to create my female and male characters first, save the characters, then up-load the new characters in a scene, and then assign my poses to them.

And yes I'm using most of Thunder3d poses.

Thanks again

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Originally Posted by: Rickberge Go to Quoted Post


Thanks for the step by step process. Im going to play with it tonight. But basically the best strategy is to create my female and male characters first, save the characters, then up-load the new characters in a scene, and then assign my poses to them.

And yes I'm using most of Thunder3d poses.

Thanks again


That's all there is to it. Yes, you will spend more time with this method, in theory. But in reality, I've found that it streamlines the process, and I really enjoy creating characters; it's a lot of fun for me. But really, once you have the character saved as a subset, you can load it again and again. In the past, I'd tried to build it all as one scene, and if something went horribly wrong and I couldn't undo it, I lost all of it; the characters, the pose, the scene, all of it was gone if I hadn't saved it previously, and to be honest, I'm really bad at saving as I go. That's why I work in units now, prefabbing the scene, the characters, props, and poses. If it shits the bed, as it occasionally will, I've only lost my time, not my carefully crafted resources. 


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I think I'm really getting the hang of things. Basically I'm in the process of making my first scene. I have the characters pretty much down pack in regard to outfit, clothing, skin textures, hair, poses, xxx poses, etc...

The last thing I need to know is how do you put the penis inside the vagina when using Thunder3d poses? I have Dickator already but I haven't purchased any female vagina such as Golden palace yet because it says that those are not requirements.

Before I purchase anymore items, I just want to make sure that I purchase the right item(s) before I try the penis in vagina pose/morph.

Thanks again for all your help
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It really depends on the poses sets themselves, some vendors include poses for their preferred genitalia, others don't, if they don't then it will usually be up to you to pose the genitals.


 


If I remember correctly Thunder 3D uses a lot of Hierarchical poses, so while the genitals may be seen or listed as optional, if you have them, then each pose will apply to the the base figure and the genital grafts at the same time.


 


Whereas a lot of the pose sets if genital poses are included, you set the pose on the main figure, then there is a matching genital pose to apply to the graft.   


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Originally Posted by: Rickberge Go to Quoted Post
I think I'm really getting the hang of things. Basically I'm in the process of making my first scene. I have the characters pretty much down pack in regard to outfit, clothing, skin textures, hair, poses, xxx poses, etc...

The last thing I need to know is how do you put the penis inside the vagina when using Thunder3d poses? I have Dickator already but I haven't purchased any female vagina such as Golden palace yet because it says that those are not requirements.

Before I purchase anymore items, I just want to make sure that I purchase the right item(s) before I try the penis in vagina pose/morph.

Thanks again for all your help


 


Hi there! :)


Purchase/Install of Golden Palace will be necessary to make those poses work that are listed as requiring GP (sometimes I even sneak GP pose in with sets that don't list it as required), and you'll need to have Dicktator and Golden Palace applied to the figures before using the poses. Once that's done, you just apply the pose, and the figure and the graft genital are both posed automagically. :)


If you have other questions, shoot me an email (it's in the readme file) I'm always happy to help new artists :)


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If you ask me, maybe these figures are just not in the mood. Maybe add a disco ball and some mellow music in the scene will help :3
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I don't think a disco ball goes well with mellow music... How about a lava lamp? :P
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Originally Posted by: Rickberge Go to Quoted Post
I think I'm really getting the hang of things. Basically I'm in the process of making my first scene. I have the characters pretty much down pack in regard to outfit, clothing, skin textures, hair, poses, xxx poses, etc...

The last thing I need to know is how do you put the penis inside the vagina when using Thunder3d poses? I have Dickator already but I haven't purchased any female vagina such as Golden palace yet because it says that those are not requirements.

Before I purchase anymore items, I just want to make sure that I purchase the right item(s) before I try the penis in vagina pose/morph.

Thanks again for all your help


 


Hi there! :)


Purchase/Install of Golden Palace will be necessary to make those poses work that are listed as requiring GP (sometimes I even sneak GP pose in with sets that don't list it as required), and you'll need to have Dicktator and Golden Palace applied to the figures before using the poses. Once that's done, you just apply the pose, and the figure and the graft genital are both posed automagically. :)


If you have other questions, shoot me an email (it's in the readme file) I'm always happy to help new artists :)



Ok thanks. and your poses are excellent!


My next step is creating an environment basically inside the bedroom at night. This (creating a night time environment) seems like a tedious process lol so first I'm a just get my XXX poses down pack since that will be the main focus of my project.


 


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