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Is there a relatively easy way to have DAZ drop clothes to the floor? 

A character starts dressed in a scene and eventually ends up naked.  I haven't figured out a realistic way to have clothes removed and appear to be casually dropped on the floor.

I usually just end up deleting the clothing item so it doesn't appear on the figure or in the scene.

I have seen renders that appear to have done this successfully, but I haven't seen a method.

BTW it seems like a good idea for some sort of DAZ script.

NAMJA

I love your work here, i'm definitly going try this myself. great work.

Originally Posted by: Zaavaleta

Originally Posted by: namja1955

Thought about dforce. That’s why I started with the “relatively easy” comment. 🙂

Lol, I know dforce is a bit intimidating, but the payoff is worth it. Plus, it's easier to drape clothes onto a flat surface - a lot easier than working with a human figure. And there's less chance of explosions. The only thing is that it can be a slow process. Once you get an item where you want it, you have to save it as an .obj and import it back into your scene. That way you can drape more clothes on top of it if you want. Of course you don't have to buy dforce clothes to do this, you can try it with anything in your library -  they may work, they may not.

But it's just a suggestion. I think there are a few products with clothes dropped on the floor like the one mentioned above. Good luck! ☺  (Damn, I gotta learn how to use emojis)

Very interesting topic which I have just caught the end of.  In my image Ready to Rumble I used dForce. I got the clothes into the right starting position with a dformer with collision just starting on the hands. Then did a part simulation. That is stopped it short of starting to completely fall. You can also do this by adjusting the time of simulation instead of canceling when it looks right. You can freeze the simulation in that position so you don't bump it out.

The hard part in pants drop is getting the clothing over the hips and the hands correct. Usually with dForce jean shorts for instance the clothes fit in at the top to stop them slipping down when you simulate in normal scenes. So you need to either deform or edit the geometry to widen the top opening to get them to fall over hips. Clearly editing the geometry is best because you could simulate a fly opening.

The important things to remember with dForce simulation is make sure to edit your poses so that they don't move too much between simulations which helps stop explosions. Also you can dForce clothing or any type but the geometry has to be tidied up other wise it will explode. As to how to edit the geometry for dForce there is an Esha tutorial which I must get back to.?

Note using the dFormers there are slight imperfections with the stays on belt a bit twisted which you could do easier and better by altering the geometry in an editor.  Also there is a bit of intersection between colliding meshes at the front which isn't visible for the shot. But the nevertheless it simulated okay. There is sufficient resistance with the hands or thumbs getting wrapped around the top of the shorts  This clothing isn't advertised as dForce but worked quite well when a dForce dynamic modifier added. I have had trouble with some clothes in simulation which were dForce. Go figure?

Hope that helps someone.

PS. Modelling is definitely the go here to undo clothing you may want to make several versions and simulate in between. For instance first button open, second button open etc. A lot of work though.

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Originally Posted by: Zaavaleta

Originally Posted by: namja1955

Thought about dforce. That’s why I started with the “relatively easy” comment. 🙂

Lol, I know dforce is a bit intimidating, but the payoff is worth it. Plus, it's easier to drape clothes onto a flat surface - a lot easier than working with a human figure. And there's less chance of explosions. The only thing is that it can be a slow process. Once you get an item where you want it, you have to save it as an .obj and import it back into your scene. That way you can drape more clothes on top of it if you want. Of course you don't have to buy dforce clothes to do this, you can try it with anything in your library -  they may work, they may not.

But it's just a suggestion. I think there are a few products with clothes dropped on the floor like the one mentioned above. Good luck! ☺  (Damn, I gotta learn how to use emojis)

In the long term I guess I'll  have to learn dforce.  I thought about one of the products that already has "draped" or dropped" clothes, but I figured that I'd have to find clothes for the characters that look like the "dropped" clothes.  Admitted I'm a lazy person, it occurred to me that it might be easier to use a premade  "pile of clothes" and just change the materials to match the clothes of the figure. I don't really have to worry about the shape of the item since it will be crumpled or deformed in some other way.