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Originally Posted by: ntngear 
Originally Posted by: SinisterSh0t
Originally Posted by: ntngear
Personally, i'd rather the base Dicktator and Golden Palace be fully functional with FilaToon first before we start adding penises to every conceivable bodypart.
Gotta Admit here, Filatoons does look pretty intriguing. So I would be interested in seeing that made compatible with Dicktator/Futalicious and Golden Palace. From what I can tell, Filatoons is a form of Shader overhaul so at least Meipe wouldn't have to completely rebuild those products from scratch for that.. at least I hope that's the case.
Afterwards, we can focus on making the idea of a eldritch penis creature product for G8 and G9, cause that what it would be to apply a penis to every conceivable body-part like the breasts, fingers, toes, back, tail, hell even morphing the neck and head of a character lol.
Fortunately you're right in the sense that it is just a shader for the Filament viewport mode, giving you cel-shading in realtime, and as such he won't have to completely rebuild those products.
However, Filament (and by extension FilaToon) doesn't support opacity maps very well. There's a lot of depth-fighting and texture flickering especially with multiple layered opacity maps (like most realistic hairstyles), and since most geografted products rely on geometry shells with opacity maps to apply textures it makes using them incredibly difficult if not impossible. To get them looking right with FilaToon, they'd need new textures that both match the style of the new Genesis 9 Anime characters while also not requiring geometry shells with opacity maps for texture blending/details (perhaps using Layered Image Editor LIE presets instead).
There is no guarantee that even L.I.E. presets would work any better as they are also shader based in implementation. Luckily both RSL and MDL support L.I.E. implementation, but that doesn't mean Filament or by extension Filatoon Shaders would support L.I.E. any better than it supports Opacity Maps.
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Originally Posted by: BrotherHades Originally Posted by: ntngear Originally Posted by: SinisterSh0t Originally Posted by: ntngear
Personally, i'd rather the baseDicktator and Golden Palace be fully functional with FilaToon first before we start adding penises to every conceivable bodypart.
Gotta Admit here, Filatoons does look pretty intriguing. So I would be interested in seeing that made compatible with Dicktator/Futalicious and Golden Palace. From what I can tell, Filatoons is a form of Shaderoverhaul so at least Meipe wouldn't have to completely rebuild those products from scratch for that.. at least I hope that's the case. Afterwards, we can focus on making the idea of a eldritch penis creature product for G8 and G9, cause that what it would be to apply a penis to every conceivable body-part like the breasts, fingers, toes, back, tail, hell even morphing the neck and head of a character lol. Fortunately you're right in the sense that it is just a shader for the Filament viewport mode, giving you cel-shading in realtime, and as such he won't have to completely rebuild those products. However, Filament (and by extensionFilaToon) doesn't support opacity maps very well. There's a lot of depth-fighting and texture flickering especially with multiple layered opacity maps (like most realistic hairstyles), and since most geografted products rely on geometry shells with opacity maps to apply textures it makes using them incredibly difficult if not impossible. To get them looking right with FilaToon, they'd need new textures that both match the style of the new Genesis 9 Anime characters while also not requiring geometry shells with opacity maps for texture blending/details (perhaps using Layered Image Editor LIE presets instead). There is no guarantee that even L.I.E. presets would work any better as they are also shader based in implementation. Luckily both RSL and MDL support L.I.E. implementation, but that doesn't mean Filament or by extension Filatoon Shaderswould support L.I.E. any better than it supports Opacity Maps. No no, Filament supports LIE presets perfectly fine. The Genesis 9 Anime base models use LIE for various body details including lips, blush, nipples, navel, and eye creases.
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Couple of questions/requests that all connect with one another:
I had already questioned about things like double danglers for genesis 8 which you declined due to niche (though I'll beg again like the loser I am), but is there any consideration for a couple of features you had on the genesis 8 dicktator models that you would bring to genesis 9? Things like:
- Pumping the pole for double danglers
- Riding Academy/Lucious Lassie for Dicktator/Double Danglers
- Any of the Roasy/BBQ/Futalicous style mixups that was on G8F
What would be the margin of profit that would bring you to consideration to make them, if there was a price I could afford to jump start the effort?
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Originally Posted by: ntngear Originally Posted by: BrotherHades Originally Posted by: ntngear
Originally Posted by: SinisterSh0t
Originally Posted by: ntngear
Personally, i'd rather the baseDicktator and Golden Palace be fully functional with FilaToon first before we start adding penises to every conceivable bodypart.
Gotta Admit here, Filatoons does look pretty intriguing. So I would be interested in seeing that made compatible with Dicktator/Futalicious and Golden Palace. From what I can tell, Filatoons is a form of Shaderoverhaul so at least Meipe wouldn't have to completely rebuild those products from scratch for that.. at least I hope that's the case.
Afterwards, we can focus on making the idea of a eldritch penis creature product for G8 and G9, cause that what it would be to apply a penis to every conceivable body-part like the breasts, fingers, toes, back, tail, hell even morphing the neck and head of a character lol.
Fortunately you're right in the sense that it is just a shader for the Filament viewport mode, giving you cel-shading in realtime, and as such he won't have to completely rebuild those products.
However, Filament (and by extensionFilaToon) doesn't support opacity maps very well. There's a lot of depth-fighting and texture flickering especially with multiple layered opacity maps (like most realistic hairstyles), and since most geografted products rely on geometry shells with opacity maps to apply textures it makes using them incredibly difficult if not impossible. To get them looking right with FilaToon, they'd need new textures that both match the style of the new Genesis 9 Anime characters while also not requiring geometry shells with opacity maps for texture blending/details (perhaps using Layered Image Editor LIE presets instead).
There is no guarantee that even L.I.E. presets would work any better as they are also shader based in implementation. Luckily both RSL and MDL support L.I.E. implementation, but that doesn't mean Filament or by extension Filatoon Shaderswould support L.I.E. any better than it supports Opacity Maps.
No no, Filament supports LIE presets perfectly fine. The Genesis 9 Anime base models use LIE for various body details including lips, blush, nipples, navel, and eye creases.
That is good to know. I don't use Filament much aside for testing poses (I'll either use Filament or Texture Shaded) as it makes it easier to rotate camera around figure looking for errors in poses, without Iray preview redrawing every time the camera is moved, and with poses surfaces aren't important so if Filament doesn't look 100% perfect that is fine.
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Originally Posted by: Ikitsumatatsu
Originally Posted by: Meipe
I'm browsing this thread for ideas ;)
Well, I'll add to the desire for "boobies with lips instead of nipples", "boobies with dicks instead of nipples", and... Vags instead of nipples for extra-special boobie hugs...
I might have mentioned in the past, such a mad thing as having Female genitals on the very tip of Male genitals, so all such as cock-docking can get even more sexy and functional
Also: Two scrotums, one in front of the other, so someone else can fuck the stinky sweaty gap between the four balls, or maybe a bit of twerking to make the ballbags sway independently to and fro like a deadly trap from some sort of treasure hunter scenario, blocking access to the minge of the covenant
Also Also: Horizontally-aligned double-dongers with their own ballbags
At this point it might actually be less complicated to make a modular peener system where you can just create new bones to add more vags dicks and balls to everything maybe hah
I've been wanting lipples for a long time now. Mouths with tongues on breasts would be awesome, hopefully for G8/8.1.
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Originally Posted by: calx86
I've been wanting lipples for a long time now. Mouths with tongues on breasts would be awesome, hopefully for G8/8.1.
Sorry... I look forward to them as well ;)
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Originally Posted by: swedishassassin Couple of questions/requests that all connect with one another:
I had already questioned about things like double danglers for genesis 8 which you declined due to niche (though I'll beg again like the loser I am), but is there any consideration for a couple of features you had on the genesis 8 dicktator models that you would bring to genesis 9? Things like:
- Pumping the pole for double danglers
- Riding Academy/Lucious Lassie for Dicktator/Double Danglers
- Any of the Roasy/BBQ/Futalicous style mixups that was on G8F
What would be the margin of profit that would bring you to consideration to make them, if there was a price I could afford to jump start the effort?
Probably Roasty is on the top of that list ;)
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Originally Posted by: t-error
do you also poll sometimes?
I would really like a poll tool on this website. I have suggested it to the Store Manager once, I hope one day we'll have it, I would be fun!
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Originally Posted by: Ikitsumatatsu
I might have mentioned in the past, such a mad thing as having Female genitals on the very tip of Male genitals, so all such as cock-docking can get even more sexy and functional
Also: Two scrotums, one in front of the other, so someone else can fuck the stinky sweaty gap between the four balls, or maybe a bit of twerking to make the ballbags sway independently to and fro like a deadly trap from some sort of treasure hunter scenario, blocking access to the minge of the covenant
OMG that would be fun 
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Are you still planning/working on updating the G8 Golden Palace to the same as the G9?
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I really hope Headlights for G9 is coming soon. Lack of good nipples is probably the one thing keeping me from using G9 more often
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Originally Posted by: happyboy Are you still planning/working on updating the G8 Golden Palace to the same as the G9?
I hope so
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Originally Posted by: trueinfernus I really hope Headlights for G9 is coming soon. Lack of good nipples is probably the one thing keeping me from using G9 more often
I would love this as well! I would use breastacular more but I like the HD options that a lot of vendors have added for skin effects...ect. So I would much rather have Headlights for G9!
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I have an odd issue. I just bought Breastacular, and the geoshell applies fine, the material copies fine... but the morphs don't seem to be added to the G9. The shape presets don't do anything and I can't find any "BL_" morphs other than the "move" and "flatten" ones.
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Never mind - I restarted DAZ and repeated the process. Now it works but it says there are duplicate formulas, so I'll just go hunt that down.
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With all the anthromorphic characters coming out over at DAZ, it would be interesting to see you create genitals for some of them, like a vulva for the female Lycan, or something for Lamia/snake people
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Originally Posted by: happyboy Are you still planning/working on updating the G8 Golden Palace to the same as the G9?
Probably! I've also been asked to bring the old, simpler G8F GP to G9...
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I'd love to see a fleshlight product from you. One that can have a lot of the textures and morphs from golden palace. It'd be a nice complement to chip dick.
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Hi,
with game over and love loads we have a very nice collection for front and back action. Unfortunately they stop at pelvis level. I'd like to see some nice creampies for both holes in various positions (standing, running down the leg ; laying on the back, running down towards the surface ; laying on the stomach,... ; overflowing with dick still inside,... ). That would be really helpful :)
Facials too ;)
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Would you ever consider doing the tail version of Fender Blender for G8M. I've always wanted a tail graft that's actually sculpted into the body, but the only ones that I know off require bespoke textures so are useless outside of the character they came with.
Between this and the improvements to Dicktator, I keep almost considering getting the G9 ones, until I use G9 again and remember how much I hate it. So I'm still holding out hope for more backports.
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