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Originally Posted by: vagans

The marketing for G9 was a bit of a scam regarding "8K materials". All the base maps and V9 maps are 4k, apart from the normal map which is 8k.

Ahh ok. That's a bit of relief. I suppose worst case scenario if the maps are too much of a performance killer I'll just try to downscale them a bit. Whether or not they'll actually look good  after that is up in the air.

Originally Posted by: BrotherHades

Originally Posted by: vagans

Originally Posted by: saintmichael95

Well, if they do have to be rebuilt completely, it'll only have to be once since G9 is a unified body for both male and female. TBH though, I'm not that excited for G9 since I hear it's complete murder on performance. Maybe if we get some 4k maps in addition to the base 8k ones but otherwise? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The marketing for G9 was a bit of a scam regarding "8K materials". All the base maps and V9 maps are 4k, apart from the normal map which is 8k.

 

Or you know Daz may have seen all the shit posting the community was doing about the 8K materials and changed their minds, and down scaled the maps before the release. Or perhaps their internal testers had problems with the 8K maps and that caused Daz to reconsider 8K maps, and the compromise was 4K on most textures, with 8K Normal maps. So rather than it being a scam, it is Daz listening to their customers and testers and adjusting things to suit. 

And let's be fair. 8K for all maps is a little bit excessive. The majority of the work 8K maps could do is in the details, and that is where normal maps can shine without being too taxing to common PCs. But I agree, proper displacement maps with high resolution would have been nice. I prefer the extra geometry for close-ups over normal maps all day long. ;)

Any chance of an update for Cream Cascade so that the scrotum props conform to Cocky Clackers?

Originally Posted by: Omega96

Any chance of an update for Cream Cascade so that the scrotum props conform to Cocky Clackers?

You're right ;)

Originally Posted by: simontemplar

I don't see G9 being useable topless without a Breastacular. That figure's nipples are an insult. You have to crank up subD *just* to make them actually look a bit like nipples...
The more I think about Daz the more they look like Illusion, the japanese company which makes hentai games. They make a game, it has interesting mechanics A, B and C
but lacks in other departments. Then they make a new one. Do they keep the ABC bits? Nooooo~~~ they start over, fuck up what worked perfectly well and as if to apologize
they'll introduce D, E and F features. Rinse, repeat. Daz is doing just that. They do one thing right, don't keep it for the next gen, add a feature, and round it goes. Without
Meipe's stuff, G8 was pretty much a mannequin for clothes as far as I was concerned. Same will happen to G9, only more so. Looking forward to this product. All the way.

lol, funny you mention Illusion, I did the fan translations for Honey Select and also was part of getting the localization going with Fakku and Steam.

There was a big group of us that did mods and whatnot for those games. When Fakku approached me about getting the translations and wanting to get input about the games and what we did to uncensor and translate (yes, they went full Bethesda and wanted the modders to fix their games...actually that's also the way Daz does it, only here we call them PAs or whatever instead of modders).

Anyways, we thought we could say something to them about JUST THAT, exactly what you're talking about. They weren't interested, they just wanted to scam our work, lol.

Those games are what made me decide to take the plunge into real renders and not just screenshots in the Studio games.

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Originally Posted by: gooHero

Funny to find you here too :-P I am also on ATF (if you're not the one I am thinking of you won't know what it is); F95(and on the old HS server that shut down), loverslab and on the Illusion discord both official and unofficial. Thanks for your work on the Illusion translations, the games were a hassle without! I have the same reasons for switching from the "games" though. Not enough freedom.

I think its bonkers to release 8.1 and then 9 relatively soon thereafter. At this point I can barely render a 8.1 female with a G8 male in the same scene, much less interesting environments on top. Genesis 8 look fine; no actually they look great. What they should be focusing on instead is making a proper physics engine instead of dforce. Dforce is absolute garbage; especially when animating (often times it takes 5-6 hours if the animation is 480 -600 frames long on an i9 later generation). Atleast Illusion had the physics down, almost perfectly. Unless you turned the characters upside down. 

 

regards,

gooHero / Antioch666 ;-)

 

ps. By the way, if you do not know that it exists, Virt-a-Mate(https://www.*deleted*.com/meshedvr  - doesn't cost much, and the key you get is valid until a larger update so you do not have to stay subscribed) is a combination of DAZ3d and the Studio in Illusion games. It "only" uses Genesis 2 characters; but it has realtime physics (+ Genesis 8 support (VaM 2.0) is coming "soon"). It is playable in both VR and on the desktop. You can find lots of free content here https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/ and here is the older version of the former https://directory.vamresources.com/?b=vam.

Yeah, that would be me, one and the same on all the sites :)

I've heard a lot of good things about vit-a-mate, not tried it though, too many 3d programs to juggle and learn already :) 

Originally Posted by: simontemplar

I helped a bit, at HongFire for a time, worked on translations for Artificial Academy games. That was ages ago. My job was to correlate the bits that others translated in that giant Google spreadshit. I also had to be the one cajoling all these translating people into not giving up. Damn, what a mess it all was, buut it worked out in the end. @_@

Dude, translating those games was brutal. I did a little work on playhome too when it first came out, but that game was a little difficult for me to do (one of the girls literally says she wishes she could die, that's when I stopped with that one) and I still had like 60,000 lines of dialogue left I think when I gave up on HS. Also did the correlating with all the different mod translations, and menus after a while. Those games were so easy to mod for a user, but there were like 8 billion translation mods, and no one could figure it out. I still have all those translations sitting in my mega account in case there's anyone looking for it 7 years later.

We should probably give Meipe their thread back though, you just got me reminiscing about the horror that those games could be for us that tried to make them work, lol.

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