Renderotica

Originally Posted by: Zeppelin

This can be a huge boon to Renderotica, as the competitor sites bend the knee, there will be fewer and fewer places to post artwork and products. DA does not live up to its name, Slush* is having major technical problems and sells nothing, RH is going under, and the other sites are tiny with no views or mixed with cartoon Hentai dominating. Huge opportunity as the last man standing for adult content and products. I look forward to a new rebuilt site with better features and store. Good Luck and God's speed.

In many ways, we were the first, so I'm fine with us being the last as well ;)

And honestly this is both the perfect time for this as well as the worst time for this lol

Perfect Time: We're back to the org crew who first built up these sites, and the vision of 'For artists by artists' is finally back

Worst Time: Due to having to get new HRP we're unable to sell pure NSFW content at the moment.

As for the other sites you mentioned,  I'm far more concerned about the 'auto pilot' "support" DA has then them not living up to their name, it's almost impossible to reach anyone without waiting 1-2 weeks no matter what the issues might be,  but when it comes to payments their faster then my kids when they know I have money lol.

Slush has always had issues, and I hear it's still more of the same,  I've submitted renders there off and on over the years but I never got any traction there.

And as much as I'd love to hop on the slinging bandwagon against RH as I am a vendor there as well under my other name,  I would not jump to the popular narrative that they "bent the knee"  people are conflating two very differnet things that are not related to each other.

I keep seeing people bringing up "watch dog groups" "credit cartels" etc, but that's the gaming industry and literally some of the most massive sites on the web, the 3D content market is a spec of dust next to Steam, Itch io, GOG and Epic which are who those watch dog groups went after,  and it was never about 'protecting kids' it was and still is a cash grab, because everything was tied back to massive fines per title X per user the site had,  THAT is why those places were gone after,  putting sites like ours or RenderHub into that situation is akin to stealing someone's lunch money when stacked against say Steam.

While I can not speak for RenderHub or Ion,  my personal theory is as he gets closer to soft launching his "Daz killer" software he needs the site to be 'clean' so purging the NSFW content is the first step to that, once you start rolling out press releases, interviews etc for a mainstream software title, the last thing you want the masses to see is a store full of NSFW content.

I of course do not know if this is totally true, but it makes sense to me,  and we have similar case studies if you think about it

Daz = Daz Studio
Rendo = Poser

Both frown upon NSFW content and both advertise heavy in the mainstream for their software and their marketplaces (thou Rendo has scaled way back on their markerplace ads but I still see Poser ads all over the place)   Mainstream ad sites loath NSFW content, and in many cases they will not sell ad space to adult sites, so again my little theory makes more sense then the mob mentality of "They got the call"  "They folded"  "The bent the knee" I keep reading over there.

Originally Posted by: Teronsuke

Originally Posted by: BigBlueProstatePoker

Originally Posted by: gohanf2285

@tero - Yeah, the situation with Renderotica is different, than RHs.

RH is literally doing the TUMBLR Effect. Same thing happened to *deleted*. And it don't help that RH is selling a lot of VIDEO GAME RIPPOF Assets. Like I understand people want to make Fanart, but a lot of them are literal Game RIPs.

"Deleted".... I see.

This post proves that this site is still doing the same BS stuff as before. Censoring posts. So new admins, same censorship rules about not mentioning the other sites and other big brother rules that never made any sense.

THANK YOU...  Adding to my list of things to fix:  "Find and go over the automatic banned word list" 

While I can understand the desire to not let people link to other sites, not even saying their name always erked me, and was one of the things I almost got changed when I was here prior and I thought it was finally changed after I left in 2023, this shows it did not. 

So I will honestly get that added to my list, and get it updated,  I can not give you a timeframe as my list is long and there's a lot of things that must get handled first, and our programmers are grinding behind the scenes getting various things fixed, updated etc so I also need them to be free to point me to where that word list sits and make sure I have the proper permissions to edit it.

This is NOT a "New admins, same old story" situation, and while I know people love to throw around words like "change" "trust" etc, I also know that actions are much louder then words, so instead of me telling you how this is all different, just sit back, keep your eyes open, pay attention and let us SHOW you.

 

BANNED WORDS ARE NOW LIFTED,  You can now talk about other sites by name, just not actual links to them.  if anything else is turning into "deleted" please let me know so I can see if there's a secondary list running in the backend somewhere.

I'm so thankful that Renderotica is still going to be here and sell content. It seemed that all 3D adult content was going bye bye. I hope Renderotica can get back to selling it's adult content ASAP. It's a big part of my livelihood and thousands of other artists alike.

Again, why not go Crypto? 

Supposedly on RH if you change your promotional pics to something a bit more SFW, or labeled Mature, not adult. you are OK to sell. According to what I know, the payment processors are OK to sell adult content as long as the images related to the content are not sexually explicit. I dont know what renderotica will do here, but over at RH supposedly that is what is happening.

Summary: It was something criminal, there was an ongoing investigation. And hrp wasn't the problem.

Chaosophia Store link

Originally Posted by: Teronsuke

And as much as I'd love to hop on the slinging bandwagon against RH as I am a vendor there as well under my other name,  I would not jump to the popular narrative that they "bent the knee"  people are conflating two very differnet things that are not related to each other.

While I can not speak for RenderHub or Ion,  my personal theory is as he gets closer to soft launching his "Daz killer" software he needs the site to be 'clean' so purging the NSFW content is the first step to that, once you start rolling out press releases, interviews etc for a mainstream software title, the last thing you want the masses to see is a store full of NSFW content.

Reading the comments over at RH, Ion made the admission in a tangential forum that the wording in his original post was deceptive. You can't "make the decision" and then claim they "had no choice." The users on the forum made the case that he should follow Renderotica's path and seek a processor who will work with NSFW creators. He said he was open to it. 

The second point is that RH has no way to get credit for the users of the site to gain advantages to the site or discounts on the products they sell. They give "karma" points that don't really mean anything, and their products are priced much higher than competitors, so if they want to be Daz killers, good luck with that.

Originally Posted by: Zeppelin

Originally Posted by: Teronsuke

And as much as I'd love to hop on the slinging bandwagon against RH as I am a vendor there as well under my other name,  I would not jump to the popular narrative that they "bent the knee"  people are conflating two very differnet things that are not related to each other.

While I can not speak for RenderHub or Ion,  my personal theory is as he gets closer to soft launching his "Daz killer" software he needs the site to be 'clean' so purging the NSFW content is the first step to that, once you start rolling out press releases, interviews etc for a mainstream software title, the last thing you want the masses to see is a store full of NSFW content.

Reading the comments over at RH, Ion made the admission in a tangential forum that the wording in his original post was deceptive. You can't "make the decision" and then claim they "had no choice." The users on the forum made the case that he should follow Renderotica's path and seek a processor who will work with NSFW creators. He said he was open to it. 

The second point is that RH has no way to get credit for the users of the site to gain advantages to the site or discounts on the products they sell. They give "karma" points that don't really mean anything, and their products are priced much higher than competitors, so if they want to be Daz killers, good luck with that.

I was at first confused by the second paragraph but I think it finally clicked,  I read it as RH gives Karma to users as credits lol.
As for pricing there, honestly that's all on the vendors as they set their own prices, and since RH has a sliding % payout I would have thought vendors would price their stuff lower there as they make a higher % per sale,  I am interested to see what comes of the software Ion is working on, so far from what I've seen even Poser is a better choice to go with, but it's very early so I will reserve full jdgement until updates happen.

As for "daz killer" that made me laugh, I love when marketplace owners not only think they can "beat" Daz but when they put it in writing on their forums, I'm not sure how someone can "beat" the one thing that is needed to allow your store to make sales.