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dsv4600  
#301 Posted : Saturday, December 3, 2022 4:37:19 AM(UTC)
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This is great and kudos for Laudanum for producing this addon; the bone based posing is brilliant and very easy to use. Unfortunately, the very first scene that I tried it on I discovered that it was incompatible with Thunder 3D's Ultimate Moisture Shell (the infamous White Surface issue with all Geoshells that don't recognise the surfaces they are covering). The surface is there, with the right name, but it obviously doesn't correspond correctly. Changing the UV maps on the Advanced Pussy to all of the variations did not help. Was it ever tested with USM? It doesn't say its compatible so I can't complain.


This really is a damn shame. Maybe Laudanum could investigate this and see what the fix is. I don't really have time to do this right now, so I'll just go back to GP for the time being. Shame. But, as I say, great work on the whole thing overall.


 


EDIT: I just noticed that disabling all the surfaces labelled "AdvancePussy_12345_" seems to solve the issue (because - duh - those are the surfaces that the Geoshell does not have textures for - my fault for not seeing that) . I will render and see what it looks like.


EDIT #2: Well, it sort of works, but it sort of doesn't. The result is that the moisture shell texture is invisible on the area covered by the AP Geograft. I guess I'm not really surprised, but it is a pain. Hopefully you and Thunder 3D can work out the compatibility at some point in the future, although I do understand that all the priority right now is for everybody to be rushing out Genesis 9 products. Anyway. I'll keep it in reserve for non sweaty scenes :)

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BrotherHades  
#302 Posted : Saturday, December 3, 2022 8:35:39 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dsv4600 Go to Quoted Post


EDIT: I just noticed that disabling all the surfaces labelled "AdvancePussy_12345_" seems to solve the issue (because - duh - those are the surfaces that the Geoshell does not have textures for - my fault for not seeing that) . I will render and see what it looks like.


EDIT #2: Well, it sort of works, but it sort of doesn't. The result is that the moisture shell texture is invisible on the area covered by the AP Geograft. I guess I'm not really surprised, but it is a pain. Hopefully you and Thunder 3D can work out the compatibility at some point in the future, although I do understand that all the priority right now is for everybody to be rushing out Genesis 9 products. Anyway. I'll keep it in reserve for non sweaty scenes :)



 


Copy the nearest geoshell texture surface, probably will be torso or Body, and maybe legs, to the added Advanced Pussy surfaces on the wet shell. You may have to play with the basic shader on the surfaces, and switch to Iray Uber if it isn't, before you copy and past the torso texture from the wet shell, and maybe play around with UV Set a bit to get things looking right if needed.


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isaac3d3  
#303 Posted : Saturday, December 3, 2022 9:23:58 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Laudanum Go to Quoted Post
The tentacles are part of an upcoming product of mine called Tentacularium which is essentially a tentacle designer tool with easy posing options.


That sounds like fun; I like the idea of being able to customise the tentacles. With most tentacle products there is always something about them I don't like or isn't ideal for the shot I'm making. So having lots of morphs (or geografts) to change size and shape would be great.


dsv4600  
#304 Posted : Saturday, December 3, 2022 9:33:46 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrotherHades Go to Quoted Post


Originally Posted by: dsv4600 Go to Quoted Post


EDIT: I just noticed that disabling all the surfaces labelled "AdvancePussy_12345_" seems to solve the issue (because - duh - those are the surfaces that the Geoshell does not have textures for - my fault for not seeing that) . I will render and see what it looks like.


EDIT #2: Well, it sort of works, but it sort of doesn't. The result is that the moisture shell texture is invisible on the area covered by the AP Geograft. I guess I'm not really surprised, but it is a pain. Hopefully you and Thunder 3D can work out the compatibility at some point in the future, although I do understand that all the priority right now is for everybody to be rushing out Genesis 9 products. Anyway. I'll keep it in reserve for non sweaty scenes :)



 


Copy the nearest geoshell texture surface, probably will be torso or Body, and maybe legs, to the added Advanced Pussy surfaces on the wet shell. You may have to play with the basic shader on the surfaces, and switch to Iray Uber if it isn't, before you copy and past the torso texture from the wet shell, and maybe play around with UV Set a bit to get things looking right if needed.



OK, that's a good suggestion. I'll give that a try. It's G8.1F so the textures concerned should be Body and Legs.


 


EDIT: So for G8.1F this is what I have done:


Apply the DAZ Iray Uber Shader to all AdvancePussy_12345_* surfaces


On the Ultimate Moisture Shell Surfaces tab ...
Copy Legs to AdvancePussy_12345_Legs
Copy Body to the remaining AdvancePussy_12345_* surfaces (not sure about all of them, but the interior ones can just be switched off anyway)


I'm rendering a test now, but I'll probably have to wait a while to see if any weird texture seams start appearing. Anyway, it does seem to be working, so thanks for that.

Edited by user Saturday, December 3, 2022 9:48:23 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Laudanum  
#305 Posted : Saturday, December 3, 2022 3:29:14 PM(UTC)
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I just submitted the latest update of Advanced Pussy.

This update fixes the slowdown and render preview problems caused by the geoshell.

The deformations in the thighs have been greatly improved.

I added a zero controllers preset and I tweaked and added new materials.

The updated version should be available for download in a day or two.
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dsv4600  
#306 Posted : Sunday, December 4, 2022 3:40:54 AM(UTC)
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I have now had the opportunity to test the USM set and copying the materials to the Geoshell surfaces does work. This could probably be done with a simple script, but I haven't the time. Another method is to simply create a new material preset for each of the USM surfaces that you want to use; then they're always ready to go.

I will take the opportunity to say that this product is fantastic. To be able to move all parts of the genitalia to fit whatever action is taking place is so much more ... intuitive :) and the addon set provides a great selection of starter poses; so many that you might never need to manually pose the AP. Honestly, apart from out of the box support for USM, which is a very specific Use Case, I can't think of anything else that it needs. Great job.
Katsuyaki  
#307 Posted : Sunday, December 4, 2022 1:31:19 PM(UTC)
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Hopefully this isn't too off-thread, but is there any possibility of getting an "Xtreme Penetration Morphs" set for G9?
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#308 Posted : Sunday, December 4, 2022 1:44:24 PM(UTC)
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Hopefully this isn't too off-thread, but is there any possibility of getting an "Xtreme Penetration Morphs" set for G9?


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cervcity  
#309 Posted : Monday, December 5, 2022 1:55:07 AM(UTC)
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I see on the promo pictures there's a lot of wrinkles around the area where the pussy/butt is stretched out. How do we get that? Is it made with an external modeling software? Or is it part of an upcoming update?


Optika  
#310 Posted : Monday, December 5, 2022 6:41:37 AM(UTC)
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Guess this is "Advanced Flesh" which is also on the roadmap for AP.

Regarding Gen9 I hope that Laudanum will focus on the rest of the G8-products (Advanced P Designer, Pubes) first until any G3/G9 versions are coming. Guess G8 is still having the greatest user base. For me G9 is somewhat a PITA. Have already some figures and morphs for that generation but find it really cumbersome to work with.
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#311 Posted : Tuesday, December 6, 2022 10:25:46 AM(UTC)
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I purchased the new Advanced Pussy, it has a lot of great features. But I noticed a very pronounced slowdown in the system after it is installed and applied.  It takes several seconds to turn the scene or to pose a limb. Anyone else notice this and are there any suggestions on how to improve performance?


cbs  
#312 Posted : Tuesday, December 6, 2022 12:31:00 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zeppelin Go to Quoted Post


I purchased the new Advanced Pussy, it has a lot of great features. But I noticed a very pronounced slowdown in the system after it is installed and applied.  It takes several seconds to turn the scene or to pose a limb. Anyone else notice this and are there any suggestions on how to improve performance?



I had that issue and I think I worked around it by changing to base resolution. I tried to verify that just now, but I didn't see worse performance with high res turned on. Maybe it was fixed in the recent update? Maybe double check that you downloaded and applied that update?


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#313 Posted : Tuesday, December 6, 2022 2:17:17 PM(UTC)
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I used the updated version to install, but will double check.


I reinstalled with the latest, still experiencing the problem.

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BrotherHades  
#314 Posted : Tuesday, December 6, 2022 4:14:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zeppelin Go to Quoted Post


I used the updated version to install, but will double check.


I reinstalled with the latest, still experiencing the problem.



The performance issues, at least the ones tied to the shell and Iray, should be fixed in update 2, whenever it comes out.


Laudanum  
#315 Posted : Tuesday, December 6, 2022 8:05:22 PM(UTC)
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The latest update for Advanced Pussy is out now and the slowdown caused by the geoshell has indeed been fixed.

The copy material script has also been improved especially the G8.1 version as well as the deformations in the thighs.
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Optika  
#316 Posted : Wednesday, December 7, 2022 2:55:31 AM(UTC)
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Great update. Works flawlessly. No more strange shapes on the glutes. No distortions. Viewport iRay supported again und much faster viewport interaction. I like.


P.S. Would love to attach some viewport shots but the "upload image"-function seems broken. At least in chrome/safari on Mac. 


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#317 Posted : Wednesday, December 7, 2022 5:02:25 AM(UTC)
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Still along the same lines for me.


Edit: In the last photo I have uploaded you can see that I was able to mend it somewhat with additional morphs shown on the right. Definitely usable now. Thank you :-)


Edit2: WARNING!! do NOT merge a character with advanced pussy added, into an existing scene with other characters. While I have not confirmed this 100% yet and will restart my computer now, as everything else has failed, it will wreck some morphs on the nether regions in the scene on female characters for some reason. I would rather not try this on any other of my scenes, because it is a lot of work to animate in DAZ :-/ will update if I find the error elsewhere, but for now this is the only reason I can see, as I just finished rendering 480 frames with no morph issues and they emerged after merging the AP character into the scene. Now its all distorted. I will edit again if/when I find out what went wrong.


Edit3: I am pretty sure it corrupted the save file. I have copied one of my other scenes and am trying to reproduce it.


Edit4: PHEW! false alarm. It was Fenderblender suddenly switching on collisions with.... nothing... and still getting distorted(I moved all morphs and deleted everything on the character). Thank fuck that was several days of work out the window if the save were corrupted. Had nothing to do with AP (also illogical that it would, but I thought I would warn people ASAP, so they did not also get their saves corrupted) :-D


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#318 Posted : Wednesday, December 7, 2022 6:39:27 AM(UTC)
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I don't usually do this but i'm really disappointed ... 30$ (yes with the addon ^^) for an "unworking" product, here's what i have with the last update and G8.1 without ANY MORPH

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cervcity  
#319 Posted : Wednesday, December 7, 2022 8:56:04 AM(UTC)
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I don't usually do this but i'm really disappointed ... 30$ (yes with the addon ^^) for an "unworking" product, here's what i have with the last update and G8.1 without ANY MORPH



 


Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed with the thigh bending too. I don't know how Laudanum managed to achieve the results shown in the promo pictures, but that's definitely not through DAZ only.


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#320 Posted : Wednesday, December 7, 2022 9:47:34 AM(UTC)
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Indeed, there are huge issues with bending :(


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