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Where are all the gay sex poses?
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I have tried searching (with multiple search words and key phrases) for premade gay sex poses for G8 and I am having a hard time finding more than a handful. And what I can find is buried under miles of het sex poses which won't do me any good. Why aren't the gay sex poses coming up separate from the het poses to begin with. I'm getting frustrated with digging through pages of packets for sale and coming up with nothing. Or are the gay poses included in some of the het poses and that's why they are being tagged?
I'm hoping someone can help me with this as well as a way to exclude het packs so I can find what I'm looking for.
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There are plenty of male on male poses in the store.
www.renderotica.com/Store/cat/266_Male-Male-Couples
But seriously...even here, it's a niche market. There won't be as much of that as there is of other couples poses.
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Sadly, there are not many. And most of what's available is made for the default g8m size and build. So you're gonna have to learn to tweak the ones you have.
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Most of the ones i see are for micheal. I just have the regular G8 and would prefer not having to buy a model.
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Originally Posted by: SnarltheWerewolf  Sadly, there are not many. And most of what's available is made for the default g8m size and build. So you're gonna have to learn to tweak the ones you have.
Yeah, the problem is, I don't have any poses to tweak.
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Originally Posted by: crayolaviolence2 
Most of the ones i see are for micheal. I just have the regular G8 and would prefer not having to buy a model.
Originally Posted by: matt 
The ones for Michael will work fine, since the character is G8 based.
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Like Matt said, you can use the Michael pose on any Genesis 8 character. You can even use the female or Vicky ones on Michael, or vice-versa. Genesis 8 is genesis 8 as far as poses are concerned. Unless you're using a base character that the poses are made for you will have to adjust the positions of your character's bones anyways. If you like the look of a certain pose pack, feel free to use it on any character you want. Technically you can use genesis 3 poses on Genesis 8 as well, but they take a bit more work to get right.
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Originally Posted by: BrimstoneOmega 
...Technically you can use genesis 3 poses on Genesis 8 as well, but they take a bit more work to get right.
True. The positions of the arms and legs will be off when using G3 on G8, or vice versa, but there's a pose converter over at DAZ, I think it's from ZeVo, that has a simple one click script to fix them.
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What BrimstoneOmega said, anything G8M or G8F will work on any g8 figure. It's all the same bones and joints. The pose packs that say something stupid like "Sassy Jazz poses for Ophelia 8" is really just Daz's way of trying to confuse you and bundle poses with a new figure.
You will probably have to tweak certain parts of the body to make it look more natural or work with the other body, but that's to be expected. It's all part of the learning process :)
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Originally Posted by: SnarltheWerewolf  What BrimstoneOmega said, anything G8M or G8F will work on any g8 figure. It's all the same bones and joints. The pose packs that say something stupid like "Sassy Jazz poses for Ophelia 8" is really just Daz's way of trying to confuse you and bundle poses with a new figure.
You will probably have to tweak certain parts of the body to make it look more natural or work with the other body, but that's to be expected. It's all part of the learning process :)
I'm someone that hardly EVER uses a box stock character morph. All of my custom characters are just that: custom. I'll combine morphs from dozens of characters and morph packs until I get something that I like, so to me, tweaking poses is just part of the workflow.
All of my female characters are shorter than the default G8, since I don't know very many women that are 5'11", LOL. But...my male characters are all 5'9" or taller. This disparity moves everything around, so not only do I have to tweak hand, arm, and leg positions, I sometimes have to shift the entire character in either the Z or Y axis to get things where they should be. Tweaking and adjusting the pose is just part of the game.
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Alright, well, looks like the Renderotica forum is going the way of the Daz forums. At least I got a warning email, lol.
I had posted a little bit about how to get free pose converters, but apparently posting a link to deviant art is some kind of violation of the ToS because it's some kind of promotional yadda yadda, so my post got deleted. Well their site their rules I suppose, I just thought this place was less Gestapo about this stuff.
I may get suspended if I do it again. No good deed goes unpunished I suppose.
Just search "World's Greatest Free Pose Converter" should be the first one that comes up. It uses pose sliders to change the base A pose of genesis 8 to the base T pose of genesis 3.
Fingers crossed I won't get suspended for this.
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BrimstoneOmega, The Community Policy regarding Links has been in place since 2014. Members should be familiar all of Renderotica’s Policies, which can be found here: https://www.renderotica....ity/CommunityPolicy.aspxThere has always been the option of sending a private message to convey information. We do not allow links to external sites as we want to protect the financial interests of our artists who are selling products in our catalogue. In this manner, we try to ensure our artists’ investments are safeguarded. In regards to your previous post, you may also want to review the Violations and Repercussions section of the Policy. Regards, Content Moderator
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Originally Posted by: ContentModerator  BrimstoneOmega,
The Community Policy regarding Links has been in place since 2014. Members should be familiar all of Renderotica’s Policies, which can be found here:
https://www.renderotica....ity/CommunityPolicy.aspx
There has always been the option of sending a private message to convey information.
We do not allow links to external sites as we want to protect the financial interests of our artists who are selling products in our catalogue. In this manner, we try to ensure our artists’ investments are safeguarded.
In regards to your previous post, you may also want to review the Violations and Repercussions section of the Policy.
Regards,
Content Moderator
Right on.
I've posted links to Deviant art before and never had a problem.
Also, I'm encouraging someone to buy products they would never have before, and even giving them an avenue to purchase products that aren't even made for the same generation. That post would have helped your artists and your site's financial interests.
But, ya know, who am I to say what's going to hurt you guys, all I try to do here is help people use the product you sell, and try to take some burden off the artist that makes them. If that's a violation then so be it. I will think twice in the future about such things. Consider me cowed.
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I gave up expecting much for male/male sex poses. I support the artists who create material for m/m and I do not support material that is not inclusive. It may not matter much but I vote with my credit card.
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There are 151 male-centric pose products in the store. Considering that they don't and won't sell like male on female or female on female poses, I'd say that's a lot.
And...as has been mentioned previously, G8F poses(as well as G3F) will work just fine on G8/3M, if you're willing to take a few minutes to move some body parts a bit, which, as has also been mentioned, you will have to do anyway if you're using a custom character, even if that pose is designed for the same mesh that the character is based on. The takeaway here is that it can all be made to work if you put in just a little bit of effort. You're essentially repurposing a tool, like using a flat tip screwdriver to pry the lid off of a can of paint. It wasn't made for that, but it sure as hell works. Do we refuse to paint until a dedicated tool is created just for that task? Of course we don't. We use what we have, pop that lid off, and get to it.
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matt made some seriously good points here. As an artist that does mostly gay art, I've had to come to the hard truth that there aren't that many poses that are meant specifically for them. However, it's still pretty easy to tweak the few poses that they have here on the market. Even then, you could just buy the pose set that you want (even if it's meant for females) and then just apply them to the male figure. Make some adjustments here and there, and they work just fine.
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#16 brings up one point but I don't think that since I need specific poses I don't buy the product knowing that I have to tweet it to make it work. Over the years I have been fortunate to have purchased many m/m poses so I really don't need more.
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M/M poses tend towards porn kind of stuff that most real people probably don't do. M/F G8 poses are trivial to modify for M/M.
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Originally Posted by: drafter69  #16 brings up one point but I don't think that since I need specific poses I don't buy the product knowing that I have to tweet it to make it work. Over the years I have been fortunate to have purchased many m/m poses so I really don't need more.
I genuinely cannot understand your absolute refusal to tweak a pose. It baffles me. Unless you are using base G8M or M8 figures, you're already tweaking poses. Hands will clip into hips or thighs, the legs won't be exactly right, even if you're using a pose that is specifically designed for the mesh that you are using. Dude, I mean no disrespect. I've asked you this before, with no answer...do you use the base G8M or M8 characters exclusively, or do you make custom characters? If you do the latter, there's no way that you're not tweaking poses already! Why not branch out and use a female pose, and move things around a bit? It doesn't take a whole lot of effort. Use the tools that are available, instead of insisting on a very specific tool that won't sell as well as what's already on the market. Understand the vendors, and what drives them. Personally, I work for money first, passion second. You can continue to hold out until a vendor makes something that's nearly identical to a M/F pose set that already exists, if it even happens, or you can buy the existing M/F pose set and move things around a bit as needed until it fits into the theme that you're after. But hey, you do you. Your art is only as good as the effort that you're willing to put into it.
Originally Posted by: wurger 
M/M poses tend towards porn kind of stuff that most real people probably don't do. M/F G8 poses are trivial to modify for M/M.
Precisely my point. Hell, even with a custom G8F character using a G8F pose, I have to move things like hands or legs, just a bit. The effort required when I use a G8F pose on a male character is no different, not at all. It's literally the same workflow. Back when I used Poser, I would adapt the UlfGens and the HiroGens to V4. Those peckers weren't designed for V4, but I took the time to make them work. In comparison to the effort and time that shit took, tweaking a pose in Studio is like getting up to grab another beer. It takes no time, and I enjoy the reward. We have a literal cornucopia of tools available to us. Some of them might not fit perfectly out of the box, but we can make them work with a bit of time. Refusing to do that based on principle and nothing more is to me, self-limiting. The Genesis meshes astound me with their versatility, and one of those perks is the ability to use poses on one that were designed for the other. They work, and get you 95% of the way there. That extra 5% is up to you, unless you won't go there...because you're not willing to. That's entirely on you.
We have the tools. We have a huge variety of products from a lot of fantastic vendors here. The trick is to look past what they were specifically made for, and to envision what you can do with them. If you think that you can make something work to create an image that you want, why not give it a try? Poses are a no-brainer in that regard. Poses are a starting point, not an end result. You will always have to tweak them. Why is this a brick wall to creating art? I will never understand that mindset.
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