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Fiddlesticks  
#1 Posted : Monday, March 16, 2026 4:50:23 PM(UTC)
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Hey guys, I'm just wondering if anyone knows of a fix or workaround for this issue with Golden Palace, where you get a lot of distortion around the hips and thighs when the legs are bent backwards and the lower abdomen is bent forward. I make a lot of "Bottom Thicc" characters, and the distortion is pretty extreme around that area on those characters. As much as I love GP, this is probably my only complaint with it, and I'd LOVE to be able to solve this one pesky issue. Any help would be appreciated.


 


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#2 Posted : Monday, March 16, 2026 6:07:31 PM(UTC)
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Are any of the morphs you're using an HD morph?


 


If so the only solution is to pick morph or graft.


 


Since Daz won't release the HD Morph tools to anyone outside their PAs the 3rd party vendors aren't given access to the tools required to get their 3rd party grafts working with HD Morphs. As it stands basically when the HD Morph hits the graft, the underlying HD morph just stops being translated to the graft. So you end up with a morph that'll just stop at the graft.


 


But with how the Pubic area is flattening like that, that would be my guess at what is causing the issue. 


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Fiddlesticks on 3/17/2026(UTC)
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2026 7:58:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrotherHades Go to Quoted Post


Are any of the morphs you're using an HD morph?


 


If so the only solution is to pick morph or graft.


 


Since Daz won't release the HD Morph tools to anyone outside their PAs the 3rd party vendors aren't given access to the tools required to get their 3rd party grafts working with HD Morphs. As it stands basically when the HD Morph hits the graft, the underlying HD morph just stops being translated to the graft. So you end up with a morph that'll just stop at the graft.


 


But with how the Pubic area is flattening like that, that would be my guess at what is causing the issue. 




No, I'm not using any HD morphs. I've also double-checked to make sure there were no hidden morphs affecting my base Genesis 8 model.


Out of curiosity, I tried some other genital grafts - Advanced Pussy by Laudanum, New Gens by 3FleetWolf, and XX by DBxxx.


Advanced Pussy has similar deformation issues to Golden Palace. XX has some too, but they're significantly less noticeable than GP or AP... and they're almost entirely absent on New Gens. So the issue seems to be inherent to Golden Palace (unless I'm missing something). Most interestingly though, not only does New Gens not have anywhere near the deformation issues as Golden Palace, but it also appears to works perfectly with Fender Bender. Which is pretty wild to me. 0_o


I'd still like to be able to know if there's some fix for the deformation on GP, but if there isn't, I could very easily see myself switching over to New Gens...


 


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#4 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2026 1:08:26 AM(UTC)
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Quote:


Advanced Pussy has similar deformation issues to Golden Palace. XX has some too, but they're significantly less noticeable than GP or AP... and they're almost entirely absent on New Gens. So the issue seems to be inherent to Golden Palace (unless I'm missing something). Most interestingly though, not only does New Gens not have anywhere near the deformation issues as Golden Palace, but it also appears to works perfectly with Fender Bender. Which is pretty wild to me. 0_o


It's even more of a mystery as Advanced Pussy replaces the entire hip area as part of the geograft. I have each of these and they behave differently depending on what model base they are attached to. The one I use the most is newgens


 


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Fiddlesticks on 3/21/2026(UTC)
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#5 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2026 2:10:46 AM(UTC)
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May be it could help :
I had many weird deformations with G8 and G9 in the hip area, including geografts
The only way to circumvent these I found is Turboloader, selecting only the morphs I intend to use.
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Fiddlesticks on 3/21/2026(UTC)
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#6 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2026 7:17:51 AM(UTC)
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Quote:


Advanced Pussy has similar deformation issues to Golden Palace. XX has some too, but they're significantly less noticeable than GP or AP... and they're almost entirely absent on New Gens. So the issue seems to be inherent to Golden Palace (unless I'm missing something). Most interestingly though, not only does New Gens not have anywhere near the deformation issues as Golden Palace, but it also appears to works perfectly with Fender Bender. Which is pretty wild to me. 0_o


It's even more of a mystery as Advanced Pussy replaces the entire hip area as part of the geograft. I have each of these and they behave differently depending on what model base they are attached to. The one I use the most is newgens


 



 


Yeah, I would have thought Advanced Pussy would have less deformation around the hips because of that. Bit strange.


I know each graft is technically better suited to certain situations than others and it's really all a case-by-case sort of thing. But after playing around with NewGens some more and picking up additional morph assets like Zev0's EXpansion Morphs bundle... I'm honestly very impressed, and can't see myself ever using Golden Palace again. NewGens does pretty much everything Golden Palace does (or at least, everything I personally would want or need GP to do), and without anywhere near the amount of deformation or "fanangling" required to get it looking fitting right. The fact that it even works with Fender Bender without any adjustment is such a massive bonus too.


The only - and I mean only - drawback to NewGens for me personally is that I can't make the pussy/majora as big or as "puffy" as I would like, and there aren't as many conforming cum/mess assets available for it as there are for GP. Although I'm seriously tempted to reach out to Fleetwolf himself and ask if I could commission him to create some extra morphs for it.


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Zeppelin on 3/21/2026(UTC)
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#7 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2026 7:21:27 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Seven-ol Go to Quoted Post
May be it could help :
I had many weird deformations with G8 and G9 in the hip area, including geografts
The only way to circumvent these I found is Turboloader, selecting only the morphs I intend to use.


 


I'm not sure how Turobloader would help, as this issue deformation issue affects even the base Geneis 8 figure with no morphs applied at all.


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#8 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2026 12:00:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fiddlesticks Go to Quoted Post


Yeah, I would have thought Advanced Pussy would have less deformation around the hips because of that. Bit strange.


I know each graft is technically better suited to certain situations than others and it's really all a case-by-case sort of thing. But after playing around with NewGens some more and picking up additional morph assets like Zev0's EXpansion Morphs bundle... I'm honestly very impressed, and can't see myself ever using Golden Palace again. NewGens does pretty much everything Golden Palace does (or at least, everything I personally would want or need GP to do), and without anywhere near the amount of deformation or "fanangling" required to get it looking fitting right. The fact that it even works with Fender Bender without any adjustment is such a massive bonus too.


The only - and I mean only - drawback to NewGens for me personally is that I can't make the pussy/majora as big or as "puffy" as I would like, and there aren't as many conforming cum/mess assets available for it as there are for GP. Although I'm seriously tempted to reach out to Fleetwolf himself and ask if I could commission him to create some extra morphs for it.




One advantage of Golden Palace (in addition to the puffy majora) is the ability to shift the entire graft left and right, which helps a bit when both legs bend sideways and the vagina gets buried behind one leg


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Fiddlesticks on 3/26/2026(UTC)
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#9 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2026 12:47:06 PM(UTC)
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Also look at which version of Golden Palace you are loading.


There are two versions included in the product, the normal version and a version with rigidity. The rigidity version could cause similar issue even on base G8F as rigidity is designed to block a certain degree of mesh deformation depending on maps used. (If I recall correctly the rigidity was a stop gap method to reduce deformation on the labia majora and labia minora with larger ladies.)


 


And Advanced Pussy by design also uses rigidity. So depending on how much your characters differ from default, will affect severity of deformation as the more the figure is morphed the more the rigidity blocks.


 


Also if using the rigidity version it could be blocking certain JCMs that are usually used to smooth and soften those areas. 

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Fiddlesticks on 3/26/2026(UTC)
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#10 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2026 11:42:17 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zeppelin Go to Quoted Post


Originally Posted by: Fiddlesticks Go to Quoted Post


Yeah, I would have thought Advanced Pussy would have less deformation around the hips because of that. Bit strange.


I know each graft is technically better suited to certain situations than others and it's really all a case-by-case sort of thing. But after playing around with NewGens some more and picking up additional morph assets like Zev0's EXpansion Morphs bundle... I'm honestly very impressed, and can't see myself ever using Golden Palace again. NewGens does pretty much everything Golden Palace does (or at least, everything I personally would want or need GP to do), and without anywhere near the amount of deformation or "fanangling" required to get it looking fitting right. The fact that it even works with Fender Bender without any adjustment is such a massive bonus too.


The only - and I mean only - drawback to NewGens for me personally is that I can't make the pussy/majora as big or as "puffy" as I would like, and there aren't as many conforming cum/mess assets available for it as there are for GP. Although I'm seriously tempted to reach out to Fleetwolf himself and ask if I could commission him to create some extra morphs for it.




One advantage of Golden Palace (in addition to the puffy majora) is the ability to shift the entire graft left and right, which helps a bit when both legs bend sideways and the vagina gets buried behind one leg



So, I picked up Genshift by Zevo too since I made that post, and it not only has adjustments to shift the gens side to side like you mentioned and expand the inside of the thighs to make more room, but it also includes a morph to give it that "puffy" look I mentioned. 0_o


Soooo... yeah. I think I'm fairly sold on NewGens. XD


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Zeppelin on 3/27/2026(UTC)
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#11 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2026 11:48:52 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrotherHades Go to Quoted Post


Also look at which version of Golden Palace you are loading.


There are two versions included in the product, the normal version and a version with rigidity. The rigidity version could cause similar issue even on base G8F as rigidity is designed to block a certain degree of mesh deformation depending on maps used. (If I recall correctly the rigidity was a stop gap method to reduce deformation on the labia majora and labia minora with larger ladies.)


 


And Advanced Pussy by design also uses rigidity. So depending on how much your characters differ from default, will affect severity of deformation as the more the figure is morphed the more the rigidity blocks.


 


Also if using the rigidity version it could be blocking certain JCMs that are usually used to smooth and soften those areas. 



 


I've pretty much always used the "standard" version of GP on all of my characters (it's also the one I used in those images I posted), but I've also tried the Rigidity version and had the same issues (And I made sure I was loading and using it correctly).


To be honest, since I've tried out and used NewGens, I honestly can't see myself going back to GP, so the issue's a bit academic now really. Regardless, thanks for the help. Much appreciated, man.


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#12 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2026 9:09:02 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fiddlesticks Go to Quoted Post


 


To be honest, since I've tried out and used NewGens, I honestly can't see myself going back to GP, so the issue's a bit academic now really. Regardless, thanks for the help. Much appreciated, man.



 


No problem.


 


I'm all for troubleshooting stuff, but in the end it comes down to using the tools that work best for you. I tend to use New Gens and Golden Palace equally. XX after them and then rarely or ever use Advanced Pussy or even Kitten's genital graft (I know there are a few more grafts out there and I have or have tried them all) but yeah GP or New Gens are the two I use most


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Fiddlesticks on 3/28/2026(UTC)
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2026 7:05:04 AM(UTC)
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I’ve used ZBrush to fix similar issues. If you delete Golden Palace from the figure, you’ll likely still see those pelvis distortions; they usually trigger during extreme bends. To fix this, set your figure to base resolution and send it to ZBrush. Smooth out the ridges on the pelvis and the areas where the hips and thighs meet. Once finished, load it back into Daz as a morph and save it as a Morph Asset (Support Asset). This allows you to activate the fix for any figure using those extreme poses. There are several YouTube tutorials available if you need a walkthrough of the Daz-to-ZBrush bridge.
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Fiddlesticks on 4/1/2026(UTC)
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#14 Posted : Thursday, April 2, 2026 4:51:02 AM(UTC)
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OP, here’s an example of how I smoothed out those awkward bend folds in ZBrush. Personally, I’d avoid extreme poses that make the female figure look like an acrobatic contortionist — it tends to create more problems than it solves. I find more relaxed, open poses work better and look more natural. Once you start pushing the limbs into extreme angles, you’re basically fighting the model, and even moderate bends can introduce distracting, unappealing folds.





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