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mortinox  
#1 Posted : Monday, February 3, 2025 7:29:47 PM(UTC)
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I use the compatiblity fit built into Daz to make this awesome collar set fit my Gen9s, and the collar ITSELF fits fine... however the attachments... act... weird. They still parent to the collar, but due to the way the neck and stuff is rigged in G9, they float in weird spots. I can unparent them, then put them in a group, and manually move and rotate that group to... limited success for still images. I know this item isn't technically compatible with G9, and I'm not expecting a *free* upgrade, but I would GLADLY pay for a G9 version of this, as there is nothing even CLOSE to this on any other site. Plus I'd rather support the original artist anyway.


Vinitharya  
#2 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2025 6:01:35 PM(UTC)
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I spoke with Miki about this in July 2024 on a 3DX art Discord server.  This may help somewhat, though I wasn't able to work with it at the time.


Me: The Renderotica help page appears to be a dead zone, and I don't know if you've made a new server to speak more directly, but can you point me to something that can get your collar asset working with Genesis 9?


Miki: hey! mmm I would try the G8-G9 converter


Me: Fair enough.  Some elements work almost perfectly already, but the pendant node is the real problem.  It always parents inside the head.


Miki: mmm, the pendant is attached to a follower node that's attached to the collar. Maybe it get lost during the conversion. Can you check this?


 


I didn't follow through, and my attempts to re-start the conversation in September didn't go anywhere.  Miki hasn't been active on that server since October 2024.  I know of no other reliable avenue.


RangerRabbit  
#3 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2025 9:50:09 AM(UTC)
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We are reaching out to Miki3dx in hopes of getting some response for you. In the meantime, have you attempted to email them directly using their Content Artist email link from your Downloads window? If you find the product in your Downloads, you'll see the Content Artist name should be underlined. Just click the name for their email address.


 

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Godless8  
#4 Posted : Sunday, March 2, 2025 5:03:36 AM(UTC)
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Rigid Follow nodes can be tricky.

First thing to do is check if they are still present after the conversion. They might be or they might not be. 


If they are no longer there, you will need to reapply them yourself.

If they are, and they still act weird, you can try to do the following, sometimes it helps:


Create an empty node, place that empty node at the exact same spot as the follow node, then parent that empty node to the rigid follow node. then, parent the item initially parented to that rigid follower node to the empty node.


It would then look like this: Collar bone => rigid follow node => empty node => item.


This may not solve the issue, it may however help reduce strange shifts.


Tentacles! Tentacles everywhere!

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miki3dx  
#5 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2025 4:04:09 AM(UTC)
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Sorry all for the late reply but I had a tough start of the year and I've been off pretty everywhere.

I did some tests and there's no easy way to use the pendant on the converted collar for G9 when using auto-fit or a converter (I guess, didn't try it). The pendant changes position, and if you reposition it it doesn't follow well when you change the char pose.
There's not plan now for an official G9 update but I'm trying a workaround that uses a custom morph, if it works I'll update you with a tutorial and the needed files.

@mortinox from what I know there's a message limit you can post here, in case you can't reply here please send a DM.

@Vinitharya sorry I've been off Discord too, anyway I'll also update you in case the workaround works.

@Godless8 hey, I'm making a few tests and the only way to make it works seems to be a custom morphs and then transfer everything (text, studs). The pendant works too.

I hope to update everyone soon!
Sorry again for the late reply

Best,
Miki


mortinox  
#6 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2025 10:04:37 AM(UTC)
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G9 makes everything wonky for updates, I bet it's DAZ's way of milking more money out of people.. make it hard to convert old items so they can sell you new ones. :(

if you ever develop a collar like this specifically for Gen9 as a separate product, I'll gladly purchase it. I may not like giving big corporations money twice, but I always am in favor of supporting the artists!
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