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PsyberSkald  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 15, 2024 8:56:44 AM(UTC)
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So, was playing around with the new Vicky 9 and the filatoon shader. Kinda cool. But the various G9 Meipe products aren't rendering properly, they're coming out as glossy white.


I assume that's because they're intended for IRAY, which Filatoon is not So it makes sense. BUT, I was wondering if there were settings in the surfaces tabs, or shaders that could be attached, that would make it work. I confess I'm not a DAZ expert, so before I go and mess around with stuff, I thought I would check here.


I'm fully prepared to accept that "nope, won't work, wrong textures/shaders/shells/etc" - but IF it can work, I'd love to know how so I can try some comic lewds :-)


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#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 15, 2024 10:58:52 AM(UTC)
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I messed around with the filatoon shaders, not really knowing what I was doing, but applying them to the various Breastacular and Golden Palaze surfaces.


I enventually got something that was good for Breastacular, but there's some seams/joining lines on the Golden Palace...


Still, it's progress...


 


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Akirael  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2024 4:58:33 AM(UTC)
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Looking good so far. Filatoon is using GeoShells for the outline, so a lot of trouble comes with the interaction between different GeoShells. Also, Filatoon is not meant to be used with HD or other highly detailed textures. So reducing the details is the name of the game. For my conversions, I often disable all displacement and/or normal maps.


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#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2024 9:33:31 PM(UTC)
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Vicky 9 and DicktatorG9.


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#5 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2024 2:39:36 AM(UTC)
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The main issue with using geograft products like Dicktator with FilaToon is that they rely on geometry shells with opacity maps to blend textures between the geografts and the base figure, and FilaToon (or Filament in general) doesn't handle opacity that well. Even if you set "pbr masked threshold" to 1, which stops the shader from trying to make the opacity map sharp, it'll have like a dark shadow around the entire opacity map causing an ugly dark seam between grafts.


If we want to use Dicktator with FilaToon, we'll need new textures that a) match the anime style of the base anime characters and Vicky 9, and b) doesn't use geometry shells with opacity maps for textures (maybe using the Layered Image Editor for blending pubic textures instead? with toony textures you probably won't need to worry about texture resolution that much).


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#6 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2024 12:18:27 PM(UTC)
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PsyberSkald  
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2024 12:28:01 PM(UTC)
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I'll release some texture sets without geometry shells!


You're the best! Thanks!


~ Psyberskald


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#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 30, 2024 11:11:45 PM(UTC)
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Any idea when we can expect that Mepie :D week?month? heaven forbid........a year........
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#9 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2024 1:30:08 PM(UTC)
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#10 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2024 3:46:48 PM(UTC)
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Sorry if it's an obvious question but will the update work for G8 or is it only for G8.1
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#11 Posted : Sunday, November 3, 2024 4:24:49 AM(UTC)
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It would be great if it could be for G8 and 8.1 (so therefore including Fut)
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 5, 2024 4:54:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PsyberSkald Go to Quoted Post


I messed around with the filatoon shaders, not really knowing what I was doing, but applying them to the various Breastacular and Golden Palaze surfaces.


I enventually got something that was good for Breastacular, but there's some seams/joining lines on the Golden Palace...


Still, it's progress...


 



Great render, can you write what body morphs values ​​you used to obtain the effect visible in the render you posted?


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#13 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2024 3:03:55 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: demon90 Go to Quoted Post
Sorry if it's an obvious question but will the update work for G8 or is it only for G8.1


For the moment I'm finishing to build the G9 version with support for Golden Palace, Dicktator, Double Danglers and Breastacular...


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#14 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2024 9:13:34 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: olo89rr Go to Quoted Post


Great render, can you write what body morphs values ​​you used to obtain the effect visible in the render you posted?



I was just messing around - I didn't keep the file and so can't be 100% sure - but I -believe- it's the stock new Vicky 9 toon character with HS Toon Bob hair, with no morphs dialed in, and Breastacular and Golden Palace G9 added. Then I just threw the Filatoon shader on the Breastacular and GP surfaces until it looked mostly right. 

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Akirael  
#15 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2024 5:07:59 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Meipe Go to Quoted Post


Originally Posted by: demon90 Go to Quoted Post
Sorry if it's an obvious question but will the update work for G8 or is it only for G8.1


For the moment I'm finishing to build the G9 version with support for Golden Palace, Dicktator, Double Danglers and Breastacular...



stupid question but are you considering expansion products for Filatoon as well, like "pumping pole"?


Meipe  
#16 Posted : Tuesday, November 12, 2024 1:01:41 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Akirael Go to Quoted Post


Originally Posted by: Meipe Go to Quoted Post


Originally Posted by: demon90 Go to Quoted Post
Sorry if it's an obvious question but will the update work for G8 or is it only for G8.1


For the moment I'm finishing to build the G9 version with support for Golden Palace, Dicktator, Double Danglers and Breastacular...



stupid question but are you considering expansion products for Filatoon as well, like "pumping pole"?



Maybe, if it'll be popular!


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#17 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2024 7:10:36 AM(UTC)
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Quote:


Maybe, if it'll be popular!



 


"If?"


Come on, now, you're the glue that holds the adult rendering community together! Without your efforts, this site would be a desert. Without being too disrespectful to the other hard-working content creators, your work functions better than anyone else's I've tried, and I'm not alone in thinking so. Hentai renders would just explode in popularity; it's a niche needing to be filled!


(Ignoring any puns about filling niches, of course...)


Help us, Obi-wan Meipe. You're our only hope.

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#19 Posted : Friday, November 22, 2024 7:38:09 AM(UTC)
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#20 Posted : Thursday, December 5, 2024 4:35:48 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Meipe Go to Quoted Post


 


Now I'm curious. Was the release popular enough to hope for more products with Filatoon support or even expansions designed for Filatoon. Or was it received poorly and any hope is in vain?


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