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gooHero  
#321 Posted : Wednesday, December 7, 2022 8:23:27 PM(UTC)
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Guess this is a no-go then. Continuing on life journey without good penetration assets beeee-bop :-D

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#322 Posted : Thursday, December 8, 2022 4:31:25 AM(UTC)
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Dear Laudanum

very impressed by your geograft

still, customers are ingrate insatiable creatures :

is it possible to have morphs (or a solution ?) for closing gap between thighs, like a heavy or thick lady ?

Morphs from G8F doesnt work , for example: https://www.daz3d.com/sh...t-for-genesis-8-female-s
The inner thighs morphs
or
https://www.daz3d.com/ki...phs-for-genesis-8-female

Thank you
warlama  
#323 Posted : Thursday, December 8, 2022 3:55:19 PM(UTC)
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hello everyone, i have an issue with this product, i installed everything fine, i go to use the product, but it leaves a very visible seam between the advanced pussy and the characters skin,
i tried it several times on different characters to see if it appears on them as well, only with this one character. the skin im using comes from this model https://www.daz3d.com/ly...p-for-genesis-8-female-s

how do i go about fixing this seam??

have a great day!
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#324 Posted : Friday, December 9, 2022 5:35:00 AM(UTC)
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Is there any chance that bending issues to be fixed?


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#325 Posted : Friday, December 9, 2022 11:36:15 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Laudanum Go to Quoted Post
I just submitted the latest update of Advanced Pussy.

This update fixes the slowdown and render preview problems caused by the geoshell.

The deformations in the thighs have been greatly improved.

I added a zero controllers preset and I tweaked and added new materials.

The updated version should be available for download in a day or two.


Thanks much, please let us know when the updates will be available!


Optika  
#326 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2022 3:24:51 AM(UTC)
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That update is already available. Just go to your downloads. New file is named "66734_Laudanum_update02.zip". Works great. No more strange butt shapes or distortions - at least with the figures I am using. Plus geoshell does work now without slowing down the viewport. Just copied over a texture including LIE without any problems.


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gooHero  
#327 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2022 8:13:06 AM(UTC)
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Gave it one last shot, but it just does not look good. The last image is after I remove AP xD


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#328 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2022 8:30:01 AM(UTC)
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...Kim Kardashian is that you?
"That was fun. Let's do it again."
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#329 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2022 10:33:50 AM(UTC)
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In full disclosure: gay and have no need for this product or interest in buying it, but I do like seeing what's being made and considered Laudanum pretty savvy.

With AP because you actually have the geograft taking over a large part of the ass, hip, and inner thigh vs just a tiny part of the groin geometry of the figure. Chances are he probably has the geograft rigged to not take certain property types. It's part of the geograft process and it's designed to help keep the geometry from deforming when you dial or pose the figure the geograft is attached to. Most geografts, especially "down there", are designed to take the barest amount of polys from the figure to minimize the possible adverse interaction with the base figure and need to make corrective morphs to fix it. More geograft means more of the body will not take those properties if they are screened out and have a much higher chance of having adverse interactions when you start dialing in many different properties and posing the figure the geograft is attached to. Laudanum's idea is an interesting and smart way to tackle the different (but still highly annoying) issue of the severe lack of polys in the hip area, especially in the groin and anus area of the g8 figure. And I say that as someone who worked on genital geograft. There ain't shit down there to work with.

Okay, I say all the above to give you some background on why you're probably seeing that issue. In fairness, I have not looked at the rigidity maps or weight mapping for the product, so there is a chance it's tit's up, but I would think Laudanum is experienced enough to have gone over that.

Now for a solution, you really only have 1 fix, which is a corrective morph to pad the ass and thighs back in. If you're seeing this apply to a specific figure out of the box (e.g. Victoria 8). Then you should take the AP geometry exported in the base figure pose and base 0 resolution with the figure morph dialed in to g8f (make sure to hide the g8f figure and anything other than AP when you export) and then just make the corrective shape in zbrush, blender, blacksmith, etc. to add the padding back in and then export it back out. Do a morph load in Daz on the AP with reverse deformations checked.

The important thing is here is if it's a single full character morph or if it's a g8f with a bunch of different morphs dialed in.

- Single figure (aka, you just have Victoria 8 dialed in) then you want to export the morph from the modeling program with the name of the figure's morph. In Daz, it's almost always FBMXXX where XXX = name of character. Easiest way to get this is to go to "full body/people" find the figure in question and then view its properties via the gear icon. Whatever is listed in the "name" field is what you should call the morph when you export it from your modeling program. Why? Because by giving it that name, anytime you dial in that figure shape into g8f, it will automatically dial the corrective into AP to fix the problem.

- Multi-property figure (aka, you have 20 properties dialed in to make the character) then you should just export the morph with something generic like "Ass gap fixer" and then import it with that name. That way you have an all purpose morph you can dial it in on AP to fix the issue when it pops up on figures.

Just make sure to save the morph to AP if you're happy with what you made.

It's not really that hard if you have some modelling experience. And in fairness to Laudanum, it's next to impossible to make a product that takes every f*cking possible combination of character and morphs and pose into consideration when you make it. It's the same reason you see people like Meipe having to issue fixes for Dicktator and other products when new figures get released at Daz.
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#330 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2022 1:55:19 PM(UTC)
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Snarl is right. I have been experimenting using zbrush to make corrective morphs. I found you can get one month free of zbrush to try it out. I have found the zbrush bridge is really easy to use, and I have been able to get some decent result as a complete noob. I like how AP give you a denser mesh in the whole hip region, so you don't have corrective morphs that are somewhat on the geograft and the rest on the figure alone. I have not had success making corrective morphs that work for different character shapes, but it works really well for tailoring one character to be perfect. The labia minora and other 'internals'  of AP work well out of the box, but I've been using zbrush to modify the labia majora and the hip region in general.


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#331 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2022 3:08:31 PM(UTC)
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Snarl is right. I have been experimenting using zbrush to make corrective morphs. I found you can get one month free of zbrush to try it out. I have found the zbrush bridge is really easy to use, and I have been able to get some decent result as a complete noob. I like how AP give you a denser mesh in the whole hip region, so you don't have corrective morphs that are somewhat on the geograft and the rest on the figure alone. I have not had success making corrective morphs that work for different character shapes, but it works really well for tailoring one character to be perfect. The labia minora and other 'internals'  of AP work well out of the box, but I've been using zbrush to modify the labia majora and the hip region in general.



I would also point out something very important. If all you are doing is making JCM's and other corrective morphs for Daz figures, just buy Zbrush Core. You can still buy that for $9.95 and it does not seem to be a subscription license. It is hard to find on the site, and I would post a link but we know how anal retentive the mods are here with links . Just search for Zbrush Core and then on the product page there's a buy link for just zbrush core that it will take you too.


I own both Zbrush and Zbrush Core. I almost *never* work in Zbrush, and always in Zbrush core. All the basics you need for making corrective morphs in there and it's *way way* easier to use. You just import the figure, make your changes, and then export the figure out. Nothing of that weird "edit"/"paint" mode stuff. Zbrush Core also has dynamic subdivision too.


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#332 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2022 3:15:06 PM(UTC)
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I used another solution. Added Golden Palace to the figure. Took five seconds ^_^


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#333 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2022 9:13:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SnarltheWerewolf Go to Quoted Post


I would also point out something very important. If all you are doing is making JCM's and other corrective morphs for Daz figures, just buy Zbrush Core. You can still buy that for $9.95 and it does not seem to be a subscription license.



 


It is a subscription license, 9.95/Month is what the BUY ZBrush Core page leads to, and it doesn't appear ZBrush Core has a perpetual license option, like ZBrush has (Or at least I couldn't find a perpetual license for core as the link under it for perpetual license takes you to a full list of the perpetual licenses and Only ZBrush for $895 is there, no ZBrush Core listed for perpetual license)


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#334 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2022 10:28:53 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrotherHades Go to Quoted Post


Originally Posted by: SnarltheWerewolf Go to Quoted Post


I would also point out something very important. If all you are doing is making JCM's and other corrective morphs for Daz figures, just buy Zbrush Core. You can still buy that for $9.95 and it does not seem to be a subscription license.



 


It is a subscription license, 9.95/Month is what the BUY ZBrush Core page leads to, and it doesn't appear ZBrush Core has a perpetual license option, like ZBrush has (Or at least I couldn't find a perpetual license for core as the link under it for perpetual license takes you to a full list of the perpetual licenses and Only ZBrush for $895 is there, no ZBrush Core listed for perpetual license)



Ugh, you're right. My bad. It doesn't show a "per month" on the price, it just says $9.95. It's only when you go to buy that it then say's per month. God, I hate subscriptions. I would still recommend Zbrush Core over Zbrush if you're just making corrective morphs. Cheaper and easier to use than Zbrush.


ZenMaster3D  
#335 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2022 10:48:39 PM(UTC)
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This is amazing!


Guess who's the latest person to jump on the ultimate pussy bandwagon? ;)  Oops, I meant "Advanced" of course but if you ask me then this is the one to "rule them all" so to speak, for real.


I've been experimenting with this critter and I'm a fan!  For example, with "another product" (which I'm obviously not going to mention) I could copy the material texture but as soon as I saved my scene and started working on it later...  it was suddenly all messed up again. Sure: running the script once more sorta fixed it, but...  that's tedious.


But this?  I saved subsets, added 'm into other sets.. it worked. I saved full sets, loaded those again: worked. It even withstands "multi poses": that's a scene where I use the timeline pane to save multiple poses within the same set.


See... the thing is: you can do a lot with using make belief, never underestimate this! For example, this post of mine, why do you think the alien hand is there? ;)  Because the 'probe' was just shoved into the character with no anatomy present what so ever.


But at the same time...  I'm honestly quite proud of my first 'AP render': that's the advanced pussy at work and I couldn't be happier. Because... while I think both renders are just fine it's also fair to say that the extra bit of detail adds something as well.


So far I'm having really good results, and I'm very happy with this critter, money well spend!



Addressing some issues seen above:


The only perpetual license available for ZBrush is the full package, Core and such can only be rented these days * (blech!). But seriously you guys: yes, it is a lot of money but I can honestly say that if you're serious about your 3D endeavours then it's also money well spend. Because ZBrush - in my opinion - truly is that awesome.


But having said that...  I can't fully comment because I don't like this program at all (just personal bias) but: what about Blender?  It's free, Daz Studio provides a bridge as well and it can roughly do the same things that ZBrush can. "sorta", IMO you get what you pay for but let's not get too offtopic here.


* That's actually incorrect: if you check out Core using the old Pixologic website and then click on "buy" you'll be moved to the Maxon website for Core purchase. Still, that doesn't provide GoZ and lacks many other useful features.


DimitarCCenev  
#336 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2022 1:44:46 AM(UTC)
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To be honest, several days and no response from Laudanum about the huge bending issues.


The issues are very strong when you combine bend and spread of the legs. The character start looking like alien :(


 


Not seeing a response is a bit of a problem for those who paid for that. I start thinking that i wish to be possible to get a refund :( :( :(


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#337 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2022 3:49:23 AM(UTC)
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Actually I do not understand all that moaning on bending and stuff. Sure the initial release had its flaws but that was corrected with updates 1 and 2.

As it is AP does its job. There might be positions where the legs do not look perfect but IMO that is the case with actually every solution. And AP has a lot of controls to adjust the look. Its down to personal taste but IMO AP has its place with the various gens/crafts available. And I have actually all of them for G8F I guess. Still personally decide from case to case what I use: AP, GP, NGV8, the default gens or sometimes even just G8F-morphs.

Personally I am very much looking forward on the future addons to AP especially that Advanced Flesh which seems to be shown in the one or other promo.
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#338 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2022 5:30:25 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Optika Go to Quoted Post
Actually I do not understand all that moaning on bending and stuff. Sure the initial release had its flaws but that was corrected with updates 1 and 2.

As it is AP does its job. There might be positions where the legs do not look perfect but IMO that is the case with actually every solution. And AP has a lot of controls to adjust the look. Its down to personal taste but IMO AP has its place with the various gens/crafts available. And I have actually all of them for G8F I guess. Still personally decide from case to case what I use: AP, GP, NGV8, the default gens or sometimes even just G8F-morphs.

Personally I am very much looking forward on the future addons to AP especially that Advanced Flesh which seems to be shown in the one or other promo.


 


Well even with update 2 you cannot bend the tights or spread them. That action results in huge deformations in hips and upper tights. So is not usable as you said. Yes, it's usable for standing poses only! 


And the deformations are not small depend on the character but they are huge. the place where Advance Pussy mesh connects with real G8.1 mesh often become like a very sharp edge. And near glutes there are big waves when tights are stretched more than 45 degrees. That is far far from perfect.


I pay for it and expect it is working or at least to get a comment from creator that fix is in the works. So far nothing from him.


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#339 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2022 10:21:27 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Optika Go to Quoted Post
Actually I do not understand all that moaning on bending and stuff. Sure the initial release had its flaws but that was corrected with updates 1 and 2.

As it is AP does its job. There might be positions where the legs do not look perfect but IMO that is the case with actually every solution. And AP has a lot of controls to adjust the look. Its down to personal taste but IMO AP has its place with the various gens/crafts available. And I have actually all of them for G8F I guess. Still personally decide from case to case what I use: AP, GP, NGV8, the default gens or sometimes even just G8F-morphs.

Personally I am very much looking forward on the future addons to AP especially that Advanced Flesh which seems to be shown in the one or other promo.


No it's not, i'm on discussion with a 3d modeler (i will skip the description that he has of the product) but the bending is "horribly" managed i think Laudanum should better do to neutralize bend fix from the other morph on his geocraft than trying to fix bending for every character.
I have any idea with what you're playing but MY DEFAULT G8 has already bad thight bending, in top of that my modeler fixed some bending morph but even with these fix when i moved to character who has bending fix such as Aurore, Jacqueline, and so on, bending is crazy again.


He can't solved all fixed bends from every character but he can neutralize them with his geocraft (which i think is a better idea).


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#340 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2022 8:02:15 AM(UTC)
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First... patience. I think it's ridiculous to expect an artist to respond to you the very same day. Heck, considering the forum I think 3 - 4 days up to a week is reasonable. Not everyone is a full blown professional here. For all we know Laud is currently working hard, and could do well without the negative distractions. Don't get me wrong here: I'm not saying that you shouldn't speak up if you're having problems, but at the same time I do think that people openly "advertising" other products on this thread is kinda disrespectful. Which is another reason I can easily understand if Laud is focussing on his product vs. this thread.

But... in all fairness: so far I've made one pose and that was focussed on standing. Tomorrow I can work on erotics again, so time to experiment with some variations. But at first impression I think some people are being way too harsh about the product, just my 2 cents. Because sometimes... you just have to make things work yourself, you can't nor should expect the product to do everything for you.

Still, more tomorrow when I can get back behind Studio.
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