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Heya so I'm pretty new to the nsfw space, especially for sex stuff. I was going to pay someone to teach me the basics, but apparently that's worth $50/50 minutes, so I decided to ask here. Any tips on getting the penis to align with the vagina, (dicktator and golden palace). Literally any sized penis, because this is getting really annoying... I'm using some of the directors cut poses
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Originally Posted by: Pilotmini  Heya so I'm pretty new to the nsfw space, especially for sex stuff. I was going to pay someone to teach me the basics, but apparently that's worth $50/50 minutes, so I decided to ask here. Any tips on getting the penis to align with the vagina, (dicktator and golden palace). Literally any sized penis, because this is getting really annoying... I'm using some of the directors cut poses
Some pose packs will have male and female then may also include genital poses as well to align the genitals. Otherwise, with rigged gens, you will need to use the posing and shaping parameters of the gens and/or collision settings when possible for penetrations. You can move figures across large scenes via parenting with "parent in place" turned off, as with any prop.
Trial and error, hopes this helps.
Another quick option once set up or (to use if pose is preset on figure or figures are posed separately and need to be moved together) is to create and position 2 node instances (penis tip and in vagina). Parent figures in place to their node and then parent the node instances with "in place" off moving one figure to (or into) the other. Edited by user Monday, November 7, 2022 2:18:01 AM(UTC)
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Welcome Pilotmini,
first make sure the hips of the Figures are aligned in a way it would be in reality. Otherwise you will get a hard time to fit the gens to each other.
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Originally Posted by: G315t Welcome Pilotmini,
first make sure the hips of the Figures are aligned in a way it would be in reality. Otherwise you will get a hardtime to fit the gens to each other.
Yeah I see that some pose sets do a bad job that so makes it extra work, anything else in terms of shaping the actually golden palace vagina to fit the "default" dicktator penis
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Originally Posted by: TheBitterGent Originally Posted by: Pilotmini Heya so I'm pretty new to the nsfw space, especially for sex stuff. I was going to pay someone to teach me the basics, but apparently that's worth $50/50 minutes, so I decided to ask here. Any tips on getting the penis to align with the vagina, (dicktator and golden palace). Literally any sized penis, because this is getting really annoying... I'm using some of the directors cut poses Some pose packs will have male and female then mayalso include genital poses as well to align the genitals. Otherwise, with rigged gens, you will need to use the posing and shapingparameters of the gens and/orcollision settings when possible for penetrations. You can move figures acrosslarge scenes via parenting with "parent in place" turned off, as with any prop. Trial and error, hopes this helps. Another quick option once set up or (to use if pose is preset on figure or figures are posed separately and need to be moved together) is to create and position 2 node instances (penis tip and in vagina).Parent figures in place to their node and then parent the node instances with "in place" off moving one figure to (or into)the other. The shaping stuff is difficult, cause sometimes it doesn't fit at all. Can you tell me what settings you use for the default sized penis when morphing golden palace
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It doesn't exactly work like that. It varies with poses and shot angles.
The Defaults especially Open 3 and 4 will cover you for most the default shaft straight on at different depths. You can dial those more or less and turning off limits to dial further until you see them break. There are expansion morph packs like Storming the Palace (with collision helpers), Gen Shift, and Deep Inside Her also but I mean unless you are doing a camera 360 spin around the vagina animation remember you only need give the illusion of penetration fit from your shot angle(s).
It can get messy sometimes but you can also pose the GP rigging bones of the labia individually to fine tune your desired look.
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There is no substitute for trial and error. The genital graphs are much superior to the default that Daz sells with their "pro" models, and there are many developers who have made their graphs without intimate knowledge of how they will fit together with other third party products.
My advice: add the genital graphs and do a little preliminary posing to get them looking natural. Pose your models. When you are happy with the poses, then try to align the genitals. If you can't see them, simply hide the figures while working on the genital match. It's not hard once you get the hang of it.
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Originally Posted by: TheBitterGent It doesn't exactly work like that. It varies with poses and shot angles.
The Defaults especially Open 3 and 4 will cover you for most the default shaft straight on at different depths. You can dial those more or less and turning off limits to dial further until you see them break. There are expansion morph packs like Storming the Palace (with collision helpers), Gen Shift, and Deep Inside Her also but I mean unless you are doing a camera 360 spin around the vagina animation remember you only need give the illusion of penetration fit from your shot angle(s).
It can get messy sometimes but you can also pose the GP rigging bones of the labia individually to fine tune your desired look. The GP bones are in the parameters tab correct, or do you mean I have to use the sliders manually?
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Originally Posted by: Zeppelin There is no substitute for trial and error. The genital graphs are much superior to the default that Daz sells with their "pro" models, and there are many developers who have made their graphs without intimate knowledge of how they will fit together with other third party products.
My advice: add the genital graphs and do a little preliminary posing to get them looking natural. Pose your models. When you are happy with the poses, then try to align the genitals. If you can't see them, simply hide the figures while working on the genital match. It's not hard once you get the hang of it. Yeah today I made great progress using "trial and error method" I feel a lot more comfortable. Now it's just improving my renders and poses
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most of my sex pose packs comes with the genital poses and shaping if need be, The only exception is I mainly use XY for the penis prop and Golden Palace for the vagina prop. My Creature sets use Cock O Rama.
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Originally Posted by: Chaosophia most of my sex pose packs comes with the genital poses and shaping if need be, The only exception is I mainly use XY for the penis prop and Golden Palace for the vagina prop. My Creature sets use Cock O Rama.
You're a true legend, your work is great. I mainly use Layla directors cut poses, which only comes with positionings, and some with facial expression. I think 3dlust also has some with shapes so I may check them out, and also maybe some of yours
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Forgot to add if you wish to do the poses yourself, set the position you want 1 figure, then lineup the pelvic area with the other, then play around with the base morphs for positioning then each section to fit the schlong in the vacinity of the vaginal hole then morph vagina to encompass the schlong. If you are going fo massive cocks then I would suggest Gen Shift and Gen Gap for extreme stretching.
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Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate that.
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Originally Posted by: Pilotmini
The GP bones are in the parameters tab correct, or do you mean I have to use the sliders manually?
I dont think you need any expansion for them. You can get to them by drilling down in the scene tab or even easier by using the bone editor tool to show them, and select them.
Then adjust via Pose Tab, Parameters Tab, or Top Menu Tools (Translation, Rotation, or Universal Tool).
I personally would save this till after most everything else is done in the workflow and you're just doing small touches with minor adjustments. (try it out on a scratch scene for practice to get a feel for it)
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I highly recommend Storming The Palace as a basic starter tool. It will cover a multitude of issues and gives a great starting point to use the other morphs to make things more natural.
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Originally Posted by: illrigger I highly recommend Storming The Palace as a basic starter tool. It will cover a multitude of issues and gives a great starting point to use the other morphs to make things more natural.
Storming the palace tbh doesn't do much for me, the morphs are meant for small penises, like probably some XY type penis
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A lot also depends how experienced you are with the software. You can edit parameters for morphs and make them a bit more to your liking. Also, the actual poses are even more important because you need to get the hips etc in the right spot in order for the genitals of the figures to be in more acceptable positions. Trial and error is the best- that and knowing that a few renders are going to be wrong or just outright suck until you get accustomed to it.
Ive made more than my fair share of mistakes in posing, but getting used to the process makes the new poses way easier to make. A lot of the time I look for specific sex/foreplay poses in actual porn images on the internet that I want and then pose the figures accordingly. It takes a while for complex ones, but its well worth it. Just make sure you save the poses so you can pull them out later and change some things to make a variant when you need them.
The most important piece of advice I can give to anyone trying to learn how to pose is to not rush it. Make mistakes.
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Originally Posted by: Pilotmini Originally Posted by: illrigger I highly recommend Storming The Palace as a basic starter tool. It will cover a multitude of issues and gives a great starting point to use the other morphs to make things more natural.
Storming the palace tbh doesn't do much for me, the morphs are meant for small penises, like probably some XY type penis
I think you may be asking too much of the geometry of the base figure, because STP will stretch to whatever size the figure morphs will allow for. I've used it with default settings Dictator v3 without issue, so it sounds like you are either using morphs that are reducing the hip size to the point where GP can't stretch enough due to the surrounding geometry, or you are using penis scales beyond what GP was intended to handle. If it's the former, you can buy some morph packs that help spread that area out.
If it's the latter you are kinda out of luck because GP is the most stretchable gen morph out there currently. There is just only so much that you can do with the number of polygons that you have to work with. If you want more, you would have to learn how to make your own gens that meet your needs, which a lot of artists have indeed done.
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In addition to the above: don't ignore the power of make belief, personal impressions are a thing too.
Unless you're specifically going for hardcore you can also often get away with pretense. Make it look real while it actually isn't. Like a penis obviously going into the female while there might not even be an actual vagina there; specific camera positions for example can also really help to enhance the scene and cover up for things which aren't really there.
Sometimes less is more, no kidding.
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What do you know? Now I actually have something to show for as example! So... assuming you use Daz Studio: don't bother with their anatomy items. Get your stuff from this place. The "other stuff" is not bad but hardly good either.
But about that make belief?
https://www.renderotica.com/gallery/shorturl/637641/Alien-interrogation-?artistname=zenmaster3d
What do you think happened down there? If your answer is penetration you'd be right, but what got penetrated? ;)
I'll tell you: a solid G8 female figure without any private parts.
Make belief can sometimes be a powerful tool as well...
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