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I watch this forum decay and its disturbing. What do you think is the root of the problem?
I think the recapcha challenge is a large part of it. First they want fire hydrents, then they want cars... then its mountains..... Sometimes it goes on and on... taking several minutes. Its gotten ridiculous. Getting closer and closer to being not worth while to simply log on. I've about had it with this nonsense. Either reduce the difficulty or eliminate it completely, the future of the site depends on it IMHO. Y'all have a great day.
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I've not had to do captchas when I log in here. I don't particularly notice much decay either. It seems it's just more of a niche sector of a niche market and this stuff can be embarrassing for the average hobbyist to talk about. Sure there's the occasional guy asking about the best way to shove a digital slug into a digital girl's posterior. Still, I'm sure there was always that kind of question floating around and I don't mind if someone asks it; considering this would be the place they bought said posterior. Hell, even though I wouldn't do it myself I could tell that person how, I mean, we're in that niche sector, and that is the subject matter of the site in general. Everyone is nice, no one judges, and people genuinely want to help each other out. The staff is here to help if there are issues, and the artists mind their forums diligently and will help with anything they can. I see no rot. I wish more places were like this.
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Originally Posted by: xxxjafoxxx 
I watch this forum decay and its disturbing. What do you think is the root of the problem?
I think the recapcha challenge is a large part of it. First they want fire hydrents, then they want cars... then its mountains..... Sometimes it goes on and on... taking several minutes. Its gotten ridiculous. Getting closer and closer to being not worth while to simply log on. I've about had it with this nonsense. Either reduce the difficulty or eliminate it completely, the future of the site depends on it IMHO.
If you click "Remember Me" when you log in, you won't get the puzzle when you come back.
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Wonder if it's a VPN issue, I know when I was using VPN it wouldn't remember me (different website tho).
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Originally Posted by: davo Wonder if it's a VPN issue, I know when I was using VPN it wouldn't remember me (different website tho).
Yeah I use a VPN, I also use in-private mode in Firefox. also clicked the 'remember me' box. Signed out without closing the window and immediately clicked sign in and got the challenge again. I mean whats the purpose of having a password anyway? I sign in to Google and practically every other site I visit, even my bank and credit cards with a password and no challenge... Throwing away member participation to block a bot or two?
Most recent sign-in demanded 4-5 challenges with several screens each before I got through, a bit much don't you think? If it came down to personal security or the security of one site, well . . . Y'all have a great day.
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Originally Posted by: xxxjafoxxx
Originally Posted by: davo Wonder if it's a VPN issue, I know when I was using VPN it wouldn't remember me (different website tho).
Yeah I use a VPN, I also use in-private mode in Firefox. also clicked the 'remember me' box. Signed out without closing the window and immediately clicked sign in and got the challenge again. I mean whats the purpose of having a password anyway? I sign in to Google and practically every other site I visit, even my bank and credit cards with a password and no challenge... Throwing away member participation to block a bot or two?
Most recent sign-in demanded 4-5 challenges with several screens each before I got through, a bit much don't you think? If it came down to personal security or the security of one site, well . . .
Yeah, that's a bit aggressive. Having to prove you're not a robot, just to prove that you already proved that you weren't a robot. I've been bumping into those a lot lately, the muliti level captchs, definitely a bit on the excessive side
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Originally Posted by: xxxjafoxxx
Originally Posted by: davo Wonder if it's a VPN issue, I know when I was using VPN it wouldn't remember me (different website tho).
Yeah I use a VPN, I also use in-private mode in Firefox. also clicked the 'remember me' box. Signed out without closing the window and immediately clicked sign in and got the challenge again. I mean whats the purpose of having a password anyway? I sign in to Google and practically every other site I visit, even my bank and credit cards with a password and no challenge... Throwing away member participation to block a bot or two?
Most recent sign-in demanded 4-5 challenges with several screens each before I got through, a bit much don't you think? If it came down to personal security or the security of one site, well . . .
You are complaining about a problem that you are causing. If you sign out, you will need to sign in and do the the challenge the next time you sign in. I highlighted where you are triggering the "problem" in your quote.
Tick "Remember Me" and don't sign out, just close the window.
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If you are running in Private Mode, or Incognito and select the "Remember Me" box, it won't remember you. That's the point of Private Mode or Incognito. It won't store cookies, so you will have to constantly answer the challenge and it will never remember you. The fact that you are having to pass the challenge 4 or 5 times tells me that even Captcha is having a difficult time proving you are human, because if you're behind a VPN wall, or using a TOR and you're running Private Mode and not accepting cookies, you will look very suspicious. I'll bet you don't log into your bank in private mode, and if you do, I'd be concerned with your bank's security protocols.
The reality of the internet today is that it's full of artificial intelligence and BOTS that are designed to infiltrate and spam. We put up what security measures we can to try to protect our Content Artists and members, but it's never perfect. It's the cost of digital communications. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but we won't be turning it off any time soon. RangerRabbit
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Its probably not the authorization stuff.
I also see only very little participation in this forum. But then again "Forums" in general are not up to the standards of our time.
People are more active in Discord groups, or (un-)social media than forums nowadays.
I have seen many forums decay over the last few years. Some don't even offer a forum anymore.
And I also think that the shop system / website layout is not very modern in terms of optics. It all seems a bit old-fashioned. That may also be part of a reason why people do not visit the site to "hang out"
Anyway. Have a nice weekend.
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Originally Posted by: BrimstoneOmega I've not had to do captchas when I log in here. I don't particularly notice much decay either. It seems it's just more of a niche sector of a niche market and this stuff can be embarrassing for the average hobbyist to talk about. Sure there's the occasional guy asking about the best way to shove a digital slug into a digital girl's posterior. Still, I'm sure there was always that kind of question floating around and I don't mind if someone asks it; considering this would be the place they bought said posterior. Hell, even though I wouldn't do it myself I could tell that person how, I mean, we're in that niche sector, and that is the subject matter of the site in general.
Everyone is nice, no one judges, and people genuinely want to help each other out. The staff is here to help if there are issues, and the artists mind their forums diligently and will help with anything they can. I see no rot. I wish more places were like this.
I certainly wouldn't disagree. I've tended to find users and creators here to be quite helpful and cordial. Truly the only puzzling element I've ever encountered is the staggering preponderance of futanari, but it isn't as if it offends me or anything, it just doesn't float my boat. I'm often amazed by how popular it seems chicks with dicks are as a theme. Or are they that these days, so hard to say? Whatever. I just figure people do what they find entertaining and consume the same. I do as well, and pretty much skip over stuff that's just not in my wheelhouse. Were I the type to get offended, I'd have no time for anything else. I've got things to do.
As far as captchas, I can't say that I can recall the last time I had one here. In some places they're endemic and when you're looking at them on any sort of high-rez screen they can be a PITA to sus out. I mean, is that a bicycle? Is it a motorcycle? Is that a boat? I think that's water, but I can't be certain - if there's water then that's likely a boat unless it's a bridge.
That's the element of captchas I dislike, the absence of scaling.
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The demise of this forum for people like me contributing to it is the overhanded moderators. Banning me from posting for months for reposting a spam email that was also posted on the Daz forums with no issues. After that I have no real desire to share anything here.
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The forum itself has been slowing for years. With the passing of some much respected members, it seemed to get worse. That's a small part.
The larger part is people just aren't doing "The Forum Thing" anymore. Most have gone to other pastures where they feel the grass is greener. I fear forums will soon fade out as more and more switch to other social media outlets. I'm seeing less and less from the older, long time members and more from a new crop of artists in the galleries.
Wow, I just realized I've been a member of this site for 16 years. Or pretty close.
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Originally Posted by: G315t
...And I also think that the shop system / website layout is not very modern in terms of optics. It all seems a bit old-fashioned. That may also be part of a reason why people do not visit the site to "hang out" ...
I agree with this. It may be superficial, but the visuals here just seems kind of...worn out. I'm not in the loop regarding the economics of running this site, so I have to assume that, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I can imagine that a edgier, more modern graphical GUI would have potential to need more $$ to keep running correctly.
Edit: There is another problem. In some ways, it is good that there is a place where people can post their adult renders that is mostly free range. That said, there are a lot of posted images here that come across as more than a little disturbed to a whole lot of people, and that impression colors the perception of this community. Maybe RenderoticaPro, with more curation? Just a thought. Edited by user Wednesday, August 24, 2022 9:50:24 PM(UTC)
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I dunno, I like the site as is. Easy gallery, filters (when artists actually use them), forums to ask questions and if a topic is interesting enough, there is a lot of discussion. 14 comments on this thread so far, people talk. It definitely isn't like the old days, most people now are caught up in learning the software and asking technical questions rather than commenting on the weather and you can thank the gods that politics haven't crept into the forums. You know, there used to be some really great cross site flame wars back in the day, from those ashes came this site and I'm glad we just don't see that kind-of activity anymore. I think it would be wise for the site owners to keep the status quo and focus on vendor support, as they do.
As for gallery content, use the filters if you don't like to see certain content, I know a lot of artists don't really understand how to use them or viewers know how to set them.
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Originally Posted by: wurger
I agree with this. It may be superficial, but the visuals here just seems kind of...worn out. I'm not in the loop regarding the economics of running this site, so I have to assume that, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I can imagine that a edgier, more modern graphical GUI would have potential to need more $$ to keep running correctly.
Nope. Please, admins...don't mess with the layout. I like how it works, I know where everything is. I hate it when I go to a website that's been "updated" and "improved", and I have to relearn the entire interface. I have to go and find things that were once exactly where I expected them to be. Why change it? We all know where the store is, we all know where the gallery is, we all know where the forum is. Let it be.
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Edit: There is another problem. In some ways, it is good that there is a place where people can post their adult renders that is mostly free range. That said, there are a lot of posted images here that come across as more than a little disturbed to a whole lot of people, and that impression colors the perception of this community. Maybe RenderoticaPro, with more curation? Just a thought.
Sure, there's some shit posted in the gallery that is absolutely NOT to my tastes. I'm sure that what I occasionally post isn't to everyone's tastes. So? If it falls within the guidelines of the TOS, let it be. If there's a certain genre that you really don't like, you can filter it out. If there's a specific artist that consistently posts images that you don't like, you can hide them, and never have to see their work again. I've done that with a few. What exactly would "curation" be? "This sucks, ditch it?" "This is gross, ditch it?" No. If it falls withing the TOS, it should stand. If it's not to your particular tastes, just don't click on it. There's a lot of images in the gallery that I want nothing to do with, but if it's within the TOS, it needs to stay. We all have our thing, and that may not be someone else's thing. That's fine.
This is a place that caters to a wide range of tastes and kinks, and it needs to stay that way. Name another website that could even compete. I won't hold my breath. Edited by user Wednesday, August 24, 2022 11:29:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: xxxjafoxxx
I think the recapcha challenge is a large part of it. First they want fire hydrents, then they want cars... then its mountains..... Sometimes it goes on and on... taking several minutes. Its gotten ridiculous. Getting closer and closer to being not worth while to simply log on. I've about had it with this nonsense. Either reduce the difficulty or eliminate it completely, the future of the site depends on it IMHO.
It's an unfortunate consequence of forums, and other things in this world, that the majority are inconvenienced by those who seek to take advantage, but I do have to wonder how long it will be before only the AI bots can get past the Captchas :-)
I'm just here by mistake, for a friend, for science... anyway you can't prove nuffin'.
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As far as I know those recaptcha solutions are used to train AI to identify stuff in pictures. So we all are working together to make our software smarter :-]
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Edit: There is another problem. In some ways, it is good that there is a place where people can post their adult renders that is mostly free range. That said, there are a lot of posted images here that come across as more than a little disturbed to a whole lot of people, and that impression colors the perception of this community. Maybe RenderoticaPro, with more curation? Just a thought.
I agree... sort of... It is great that we have a place we can share our renders / views but more censorship? Noooo....
When browsing the galleries, or even the catalog for that matter, there are things that make me go, like, Eeewww or even WTF! with a lol... but really, who am I to judge.
Yes there has to be a degree of moderation but where do you draw the line and around who's tastes?
I am surprised the site has not been trampled over by stampeding PC warriors already, perhaps being on a dingy thread of the old Web here is a good thing.
True, being in the spotlight of anti-social media where the rest of the herd are told to graze may attract more participation but could result in other attentions, which could require a more PC 'are you sure you want to enter' front door.
Enjoy it while you can.
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I hope this site does not devolve into a curated site. One of the reasons people are attracted to computer generated art is that it allows them to explore what's not possible (and should not be possible) in the real world. This site allows people to share their fantasies.
The world has changed a lot, and even the 3d images on this site are tame compared to sites that feature real people engaged in real acts in videos not just still images. Pretty much everything is fair game these days and easily obtained on the internet.
If this became a curated site, I predict it would become a site of boring vanilla pin-ups and artists would migrate to the pay sites located in the Netherlands.
It's pretty simple. If images offend one's sensibility, then don't look at them. Edited by user Thursday, August 25, 2022 10:31:34 AM(UTC)
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I don't think that the site needs curating. Sure there are some very bad ones in the gallery, but we all started with bad ones right?
But it needs better working filters. For example I have filtered out gay, transgender, BBW and torture. Basicaly everything else is ok for me.
And I still get dick pics, male only, and futa pictures all the time. So there is something wrong. I don't know if that is a filter issue or because the creator does not tag the content correctly (or at all), but the filters do not apply the way I expect them to work and thats annoying.
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