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TheBitterGent  
#21 Posted : Friday, February 11, 2022 12:33:25 AM(UTC)
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Black History Month no. I won't acknowledge it. Truthfully you probably don't want me to acknowledge it.
People should just be people, History should just be History, Americans should just be Americans.
The more any group fights to be seen as different, the less they should be surprised when they are seen as different.
No one should be prideful or regretful for things they didn't do.


In a perfect would, this would work... but that's not how any of that works. If not all history is celebrated then coupled with comments from people either accepting the status quo or thinks saying "we should be like this" is the equivalent of actually doing something to ensure that happens... then nothing gets done. 


So that's kind of why things like black history month exists. Because folks are talking, but not actually doing the work.


Just saying.



That's EXACTLY how it works, if you'd just let it. Did I say omit history??? No tell more of it, and accurately. I'm just saying don't segregate it.


What doesn't "get done"?


I mean sure you could just change your mindset right now and be better off having 100% equality, put away this inferiority complex, and move past dwelling on injustices of long ago in just 3 generations.


Black History Month seems to focus a whole lot on the US's 100 yrs of slavery. Real racist love it. Its like the other 11 months are just white history.


Why lose all the ideas of white supremacy and minority inferiority teaching that white people were never slaves, all white people owned slaves, all slave owners were white, and all slave owner abused their slaves. I mean they really should have been offered the highest paying least labor intensive positions, not knowing math, reading, writing, or how to speak the language at the time and all. 


I bet the Dixiecrats... oops... Democrats truly want to help these people out by segregating them, even into different holidays, while garnishing their votes. Why have an inclusive protest for reform of all policing when you could just call it BLM?


Schools dont teach kids their basic rights of the first 5 Amendments, how to balance a checkbook, get a job, or pay taxes. Yet they should dedicate a month to teach who invented the ice cream scoop, truck refrigeration, and peanut butter?


Corrupt thieving politicians bring us to the brink of economic collapse, call World War 3 to the door, ensure all our cotton is still coming from slaves in China, and want to censor us into oblivion.


Enough in the here and now,  Im just so over it dude. Life aint fair, history is told by the winners of wars, no one else can do your personal responsibility for you. Where you and your grand children end up in America is on you more than your or anyone else's great grandfather. 


Change your mind, change your life.


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#22 Posted : Friday, February 11, 2022 2:01:57 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TheBitterGent Go to Quoted Post


That's EXACTLY how it works, if you'd just let it. Did I say omit history??? No tell more of it, and accurately. I'm just saying don't segregate it.


What doesn't "get done"?


I mean sure you could just change your mindset right now and be better off having 100% equality, put away this inferiority complex, and move past dwelling on injustices of long ago in just 3 generations.


Black History Month seems to focus a whole lot on the US's 100 yrs of slavery. Real racist love it. Its like the other 11 months are just white history.


Why lose all the ideas of white supremacy and minority inferiority teaching that white people were never slaves, all white people owned slaves, all slave owners were white, and all slave owner abused their slaves. I mean they really should have been offered the highest paying least labor intensive positions, not knowing math, reading, writing, or how to speak the language at the time and all. 


I bet the Dixiecrats... oops... Democrats truly want to help these people out by segregating them, even into different holidays, while garnishing their votes. Why have an inclusive protest for reform of all policing when you could just call it BLM?


Schools dont teach kids their basic rights of the first 5 Amendments, how to balance a checkbook, get a job, or pay taxes. Yet they should dedicate a month to teach who invented the ice cream scoop, truck refrigeration, and peanut butter?


Corrupt thieving politicians bring us to the brink of economic collapse, call World War 3 to the door, ensure all our cotton is still coming from slaves in China, and want to censor us into oblivion.


Enough in the here and now,  Im just so over it dude. Life aint fair, history is told by the winners of wars, no one else can do your personal responsibility for you. Where you and your grand children end up in America is on you more than your or anyone else's great grandfather. 


Change your mind, change your life.



People SHOULD just be people. That is unfortunately not the case. We live in a society where Oklahoma is trying to get through a bill that would fine teachers for anything non-religious (specifically Christian), were Texas has already passed a bill (bill 3979) which clearly states that teachers are NOT allowed to discuss anything to do with racism, and which Toth, the writer of the bill, when pressed, went on record saying that he refused to add an amendment saying white supremacy is wrong. Critical race theory is unallowed in the majority of republican run states.  There is no reason to believe that if there was no black history month that ANY history about the African Americans in this country would be taught. That is in stark relief to the fact that it ISN'T required to be taught at all, or even mentioned - ever - during Febuary. It is not getting done.


Injustices are still happening, on a yearly, monthly, weekly, daily, and hourly basis. They can be very large or very small. They happen all the same. We have a day to celebrate Italians (Columbus Day was originally formed to celebrate them by President Benjamin Harrison), Irish celebratory days (St. Paddy's), and Oktoberfest (a two-week celebration of Germans). All three of these holidays - for the States - were started to combat the racial injustices against those ethnic groups and honor what they've done for the country. Why not the largest minority population in the country?


History is told by the winners, true. Laws are also passed by them. Laws that have gone out of their way to try to stifle minorities - Black, latino, native American, asian, middle eastern - in as many ways as possible. I've gotten jobs literally only because I was white, while the other person applying was latino. They were better qualified. I know, we compared resumes while waiting for the interviews. People can say that's just a one-off, but it ACTUALLY happens all the time. People cannot expect others to pull themselves up by the bootstraps when the boots themselves have been taken away and their toes are on the fire.


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#23 Posted : Friday, February 11, 2022 11:50:40 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bumper2 Go to Quoted Post


People SHOULD just be people. That is unfortunately not the case. We live in a society where Oklahoma is trying to get through a bill that would fine teachers for anything non-religious (specifically Christian), were Texas has already passed a bill (bill 3979) which clearly states that teachers are NOT allowed to discuss anything to do with racism, and which Toth, the writer of the bill, when pressed, went on record saying that he refused to add an amendment saying white supremacy is wrong. Critical race theory is unallowed in the majority of republican run states.  There is no reason to believe that if there was no black history month that ANY history about the African Americans in this country would be taught. That is in stark relief to the fact that it ISN'T required to be taught at all, or even mentioned - ever - during Febuary. It is not getting done.


Injustices are still happening, on a yearly, monthly, weekly, daily, and hourly basis. They can be very large or very small. They happen all the same. We have a day to celebrate Italians (Columbus Day was originally formed to celebrate them by President Benjamin Harrison), Irish celebratory days (St. Paddy's), and Oktoberfest (a two-week celebration of Germans). All three of these holidays - for the States - were started to combat the racial injustices against those ethnic groups and honor what they've done for the country. Why not the largest minority population in the country?


History is told by the winners, true. Laws are also passed by them. Laws that have gone out of their way to try to stifle minorities - Black, latino, native American, asian, middle eastern - in as many ways as possible. I've gotten jobs literally only because I was white, while the other person applying was latino. They were better qualified. I know, we compared resumes while waiting for the interviews. People can say that's just a one-off, but it ACTUALLY happens all the time. People cannot expect others to pull themselves up by the bootstraps when the boots themselves have been taken away and their toes are on the fire.



I'll also add there was a school district in Texas that actually put books in classrooms that tried to reframe slavery as "indentured servants" 


Once they got caught, they tried to say it was a misunderstanding. That's quite a misunderstanding.


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#24 Posted : Friday, February 11, 2022 1:42:25 PM(UTC)
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Once again I find myself having to place a warning shot across the bow in the forums. Be cautious how you use your language and don't get yourself caught by breaking one of the Member Conduct rules in the Community Policies. There is a button at the top left of this page, right under the Logo, "Renderotica", where you can find the Community Policies at any time. 


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#25 Posted : Friday, February 11, 2022 6:25:20 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RangerRabbit Go to Quoted Post


Once again I find myself having to place a warning shot across the bow in the forums. Be cautious how you use your language and don't get yourself caught by breaking one of the Member Conduct rules in the Community Policies. There is a button at the top left of this page, right under the Logo, "Renderotica", where you can find the Community Policies at any time. 


As a reminder, we are an artist community. There are much better forums/platforms to voice your political beliefs on. I, for one, don't want to see this website being used to fight political battles. Make art, not war. 



Sorry if offended, Im done, going back to making boobie pictures.


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