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Zanussi  
#1 Posted : Sunday, March 7, 2021 2:41:51 PM(UTC)
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You rock, I love the Golden Palace product and additions, I am holding off expanding into 8,1 until there is a compatible Golden Palace for her, it might sound odd but I add a genital to all my renders even if they do not show, I know they are there, kind of like going out of a date and knowing your girl is commando, no one will see it - probably - but just knowing does something for both of us.


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#2 Posted : Monday, March 8, 2021 7:52:27 AM(UTC)
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#3 Posted : Thursday, March 11, 2021 12:34:21 AM(UTC)
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Hey, Meipe - Thanks for updating Breastacular and Golden Palace to work with G8.1.  I'm still in the process of updating my figures that I use.  I'm not quite sure what new possibilities for detail G8.1 entails, but I'm sure it's not minor.


I was wondering though, is it possible to add more detail, such as wrinkles and subtle folds, to the labia on GP 8.1? Also, I never did get the texture-flattening script to work in Daz, but I figured out a good workflow for masking textures within Blender, to get it work well.


 


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#4 Posted : Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:54:39 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: highstrangeness Go to Quoted Post


is it possible to add more detail, such as wrinkles and subtle folds, to the labia on GP 8.1?



I'll build better textures for all my gens... In this moment I'm on Dicktator but soon or later more option will be added to GP.


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#5 Posted : Friday, March 12, 2021 10:08:37 PM(UTC)
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I'll build better textures for all my gens... In this moment I'm on Dicktator but soon or later more option will be added to GP.



Good news indeed.  That should be interesting.  A higher resolution (4096x4096) would be nice, of course, but I'm sure you already have that in mind.  It might be possible to use photo references to create a better set of textures.  Rather than doing it all by hand I meant.  Although again you might do that.  I've never created any textures.


I was looking through the female model technical photos on *deleted* a site for photo references of the human body, for scans/photos of female nipples, for the purpose of masking in over the nipples on torso textures on Daz figures (in Blender, with nodes) but the problem I ran into is that most all of all the sets I saw had photos of only one nipple, which isn't what I wanted.  I'd need matching sets, ideally.  I think a high-res texture set, made from real photo scans, for Breastacular would be a good thing too.


In any case, I did contact the site to see if I could request pairs of nipple images from models, and suggested that they take photos of both, when they do that sort of thing, instead of just photographing one side.  


 

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#6 Posted : Saturday, March 13, 2021 12:33:42 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Meipe Go to Quoted Post


Originally Posted by: highstrangeness Go to Quoted Post


is it possible to add more detail, such as wrinkles and subtle folds, to the labia on GP 8.1?



I'll build better textures for all my gens... In this moment I'm on Dicktator but soon or later more option will be added to GP.



 


I haven't been very impressed with Golden Palace to date, solely because the anus looks completely unrealistic in the promos. The Gens are a good enough shape, except I feel they are a bit "chunky", but the textures don't come anywhere near to what 3feetwolf had to offer before he became defunct. 3feetwolf, before he stopped producing, gave away a pretty good expansion pack that had some realistic wetness to it. Especially the pale liquid which was quite believable. Growler has only a couple of realistic fur props, but they don't include the anus the way that 3feetwolfs did, so combined with that shapeless, unnaturally pink, and way too small anus that Golden Palace uses, it's basically useless except in a standing up straight, at a distance, kind of render. The anus looks like it was added in as an after thought, not as part of the genitals. In real life, the genitals and the anus flow one into the other and are part of each other. They don't go "one here, and the other one over there". I don't understand why nobody is making something more realistic than what is currently being offered. It's almost as if the PA isn't using any reference photos of the real thing to design this product. With the huge improvements in texture and believability that 8.1 has to offer, I'd hope that one day someone who knows what they're doing will come along and produce female gens and pubes that match the quality and believability of the rest of the character.


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#7 Posted : Saturday, March 13, 2021 1:39:55 PM(UTC)
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#8 Posted : Saturday, March 13, 2021 2:53:52 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Meipe Go to Quoted Post
Are you using the default textures or the Stereo Love&Pussy Wizard ones?


I don't have those, but I'd buy them if I thought the textures looked ok. I especially don't like what I'm seeing for your anus in the promos. Is it just that the promos don't show it well? Or is it really that unrealistic?


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#9 Posted : Saturday, March 13, 2021 10:51:03 PM(UTC)
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So I took a look at the Stereo Love and Pussy Wizard promos and Pussy Wizard doesn't even show an anus. Stereo Love shows one promos with anus's on them that look better than the one on Golden palace, but there's no way to tell how they would actually look on a GF8 character because there is no promo for that. So I can't tell if it would look natural or more like something plunked in the approximate vicinity of the gens but not actually part of them.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, March 14, 2021 2:37:51 PM(UTC)
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#11 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2021 9:51:52 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Meipe Go to Quoted Post
Ok, tell me what kind of character you are using, and I'll do a render with the SL anuses


I'm using Victoria 8.1 and Pandora 8.1, but I also use GF8 since there aren't a lot of 8.1 yet.


I also use Evangeliya and Andie from Phoenix 66


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#12 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2021 2:14:14 PM(UTC)
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#13 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2021 3:02:32 PM(UTC)
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Here's a real quick and dirty render I made using one of my custom characters, I call her Sharla. Mid-forties MILF. Hey, I'm mid-forties, don't judge! ;)


The texture is Victoria 8. I used one of the color presets from Stereo Love, as well as the labia colors from Pussy Wizard, and a host of morphs that are included both with SL and GP, such as Anus Open, Gape Width, Gape Height, Sphincter Contraction and Prolapse, and a few others. The gloss effect on the anus is my own creation. If you're interested in recreating it, select the GP shell(NOT the Majora Shell), select 'GP Torso Back', and set 'Glossy Color' to pure white, set 'Glossiness' to .99, not 1.0, and set 'Glossy Anisotropy' to .48. Don't mess with any of the maps. Top Coat doesn't seem to do anything, but play with it if you want. 


In any case, I think that GP with SL can create a pretty realistic asshole, wouldn't you say?


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#14 Posted : Thursday, March 18, 2021 7:11:49 PM(UTC)
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So Meipe, The anus looks much better in those images. But I'm still seeing a huge blank space between the gens and the anus which is not natural. The two should blend into each other. These look like they are completely individual items spaced far apart instead of one thing connected by a noticible bridge. I realize that you probably need to make separate objects because of the morphs, but why are they not at least connecting to each other? There should be that kind of flowing texturing and shaping that is dark that makes the gens flow into the anus over a perpendicular bridge, but what you have here is a large space of regular skin that could be found on the thighs or something, bridging the two, and that looks unreal. The dark around the anus should blend into the red around the gens in some kind of narrowing connector area of skin. It shouldn't be regular flesh coloring that can be found on the face or the back or the legs or something like that. It should be a mix of the dark from the gens and the dark from the anus

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justtheonenow  
#15 Posted : Saturday, April 10, 2021 5:01:11 AM(UTC)
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Hi Meipe, first off, love the work. Just wondering if anyone has mentioned issues with GP and issues with mixing an 8.1 figure with 8 skin materials? At least I think that’s the issue I’m having. 8.1 figure, 8 skin and I can’t get GP to copy the mats. If I try the old 8 mat copy it tells me to select a genesis 8 figure (obviously because I’m using 8.1) and if I use the new GP 8.1 mats copy function it still asks me to select a genesis figure from the scene. Would this be because it’s reading both 8 and 8.1 from my overall figure?
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#16 Posted : Sunday, April 11, 2021 12:45:21 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: justtheonenow Go to Quoted Post
Hi Meipe, first off, love the work. Just wondering if anyone has mentioned issues with GP and issues with mixing an 8.1 figure with 8 skin materials? At least I think that’s the issue I’m having. 8.1 figure, 8 skin and I can’t get GP to copy the mats. If I try the old 8 mat copy it tells me to select a genesis 8 figure (obviously because I’m using 8.1) and if I use the new GP 8.1 mats copy function it still asks me to select a genesis figure from the scene. Would this be because it’s reading both 8 and 8.1 from my overall figure?


If you have downloaded and properly installed Meipie's hotfix then you should just double check that you have the "G8.1F" figure selected in the scene.


If you have the G8.1F selected then attempted to apply the old G8F Mat Copy Script by accident, then the figure becomes deselected.


Just double check that the G8.1F Figure node is selected in the scene tab before applying the new G8.1F Mat copy Script.


If its still white and you have applied any additional shells to the figure, then select the shells and run the Shell Fixer v2 script as before for shell correction.


If this still errors then perhaps you are using a character with a custom UV map. Under surfaces tab check the UV Set is on Base or Default.  


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justtheonenow  
#17 Posted : Sunday, April 11, 2021 8:37:27 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for your reply. I’ve just tried all that but with no luck.
Could it be because I’m using Vitoria 8.1 HD? Basically I’m still getting “Genesis 8 female not found! Remember to load it on G8F first.” message, even though I’m clicking on the 8.1 material copy from Meipes 8.1 update.
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#18 Posted : Sunday, April 11, 2021 8:21:51 PM(UTC)
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I've seen this. If I recall, I had to delete the gens and start over. Tried everything TBG suggests above and generally it works; but, in this particular case, I needed to 'do over'.

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#19 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2021 11:19:04 AM(UTC)
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I made a morph of my character and loaded it on to a fresh 8.1 and all worked perfectly. Only problem is that my morph is causing some issues with hair so I'd still like to fix the gen mats on my original Victoria HD character. Sadly this is where golden palace tells me to select a gen 8 figure. Can we confirm that Victoria 8.1 HD is the reason golden palace can't copy the mats?

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#20 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2021 3:58:29 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: justtheonenow Go to Quoted Post


I made a morph of my character and loaded it on to a fresh 8.1 and all worked perfectly. Only problem is that my morph is causing some issues with hair so I'd still like to fix the gen mats on my original Victoria HD character. Sadly this is where golden palace tells me to select a gen 8 figure. Can we confirm that Victoria 8.1 HD is the reason golden palace can't copy the mats?



Most geo grafts won't work with HD morphs and characters, usually it just boils down to the HD morphs stopping where the graft begins, but I suppose it is possible that Daz did something in the files for Victoria 8.1 HD that makes Golden Palace not recognize it as a Genesis 8 or Genesis 8.1 based figure. The HD characters I tried (Edie 8 HD, Mabel 8 HD, and a few of Marcius' HD characters) I could get the Golden Palace to load on but like I said the HD morph just abruptly stop where the graft is.


 


Sadly the tools to fix grafts to work with HD morphs/characters isn't available to vendors outside of Daz's PAs, so at the moment getting grafts working correctly with HD morphs and characters isn't going to happen.

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