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Not actually support related, but I really like the concept. The only thing is that however much I like the features it offers - all the dials and electrodes and such, I like the face to be visible. So something that is setup very much the same way with control panels and such but with enhanced visibility of more than the torso (I realize that's the main feature of this product) would be more appealing to me.
Torsos are all well and good, but faces are a big draw for me as well I fear. However, you might equally get people who want to see feet for instance, since that's a fetish as well. Personally I don't identify individuals by their feet and only rarely by their torsos.
I posted here because I felt it might draw the creator's attention, but I trust I still succeed if moved.
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I'd also add that I'm not a huge fan of these spikes that you have piercing breasts, I'm just not into the brutal stuff. But you kindly ;) keep those sorts of things as options rather than necessities for a prop. Options are what enable an item to appeal to a variety of consumers I'd imagine. That's why I don't buy the (what I consider the weird) cannibalism stuff or death porn, but I also don't condemn it. I simply don't buy it. There are some comics like that, to my taste they go waay too far and then farther still. There's a sweet spot for me that rarely gets tickled.
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Originally Posted by: Dareshiranu  I'd also add that I'm not a huge fan of these spikes that you have piercing breasts, I'm just not into the brutal stuff. But you kindly ;)
Uhm, now I'm confused. Are you sure we're talking about the same product?
I have several of Dr. Pervic's products in my library and while I most definitely agree that the whole intent is more than often quite brutal... it doesn't force you into anything.
For example.. this tantalizer... the (implied) intent is locking up a poor Genesis and then whipping them into shape. Easily concluded because the product provides poses for Genesis male/female but also those for the whip, nothing else. Including... whip marks.
Yet that doesn't mean you can't use this in a more milder setup. For example something like this screenie; I'm sure you'll recognize the device on the left: no whip marks, no breast clamps (nor spikes!). Just a poor girl locked into place, and well... ahem... having "some device" strapped onto and 'into' her but that's not part of this product! (nor is the beer).
For the record: the "b00b tray" (as I like to call it) is an asset from Dr. Pervie's sex slave island, another of his products. (sorry, sorry: Mr. DoctorPervic of course!).
And this applies to most of the doctors work from my point of view... I also own the "tennis ball set"... I'm pretty sure the store page alone gives you a good impression. Thing is: that product page itself is also kinda too much for me personally; while I actually bought the product I never used it like that. Nah: instead I prefer "implied danger", for example by combining the tennis ball shooter prop with, say, the the punishment stall, or the tantalizer for that matter: having the tennis balls shot only onto the girls torso / belly vs. directly into her.
As such... I'm not sure what your point is. Sure; there are ways to apply clamps to the girls b00bs but... it's not something mandatory.
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Originally Posted by: Dareshiranu I'd also add that I'm not a huge fan of these spikes that you have piercing breasts, I'm just not into the brutal stuff. But you kindly ;)
Uhm, now I'm confused. Are you sure we're talking about the same product?
I have several of Dr. Pervic's products in my library and while I most definitely agree that the whole intent is more than often quite brutal... it doesn't force you into anything.
As such... I'm not sure what your point is. Sure; there are ways to apply clamps to the girls b00bs but... it's not something mandatory.
I didn't think it was necessary to quote your entire response. We largely agree. But your confusion is misplaced. My not being a fan of the spikes was stated quite clearly. So, I thought, was my (attempted humorous) observation that DoctorPervic included them as an "option" rather than a requirement. One of the promo images for the Torso Tantalizer, as an example - though several other of their products include this same or similar prop - has a spiked rod piercing both breasts horizontally. Like I said, not my cup of tea. I'm not into the mutilation style of stuff. But otherwise, I like the intent of the overall prop, I intended to suggest a similar overall "Tantalizer" but one with the face visible. I like all the controls/dials/attachment points for electrodes and doodads. I just like the restraint (and restraints in general) but with the specific inclusion of the ability to see the face of the... subject without deprecating the control facia of the device. I think it looks cool. I think faces do too. It's much easier to convey emotion when they're involved, That's why I don't go for hoods. Blindfolds, sure.
Now in a narrative format, I can certainly see a use for a hood, it could easily be used on and off or as a cutaway scene in a comic for dramatic intensity. But eliminating the face leaves me out. Hence, again, my suggestion.
Certainly I never complained about being forced into anything, an odd consideration given the topic :). And I did make the observation, which I reiterated here that it included options I didn't care for but liked that they weren't required to make the thing function. That's the opposite of mandatory as far as I'm aware. As for spiky bits, I can always change the materials from metal to rubber to make them feel a little less... permanent.
I'm just hoping to see a similar Tantalizer type with torso AND face visible at the same time. I'd do it myself, were I talented enough in such things. Alas, the best I can hope to do is kit-bash or change materials. Strictly amateur hour.
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Now that I look more closely, I think I get it. Perhaps you only read the first half of my first sentence? That would explain the confusion.
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Originally Posted by: Dareshiranu Now that I look more closely, I think I get it. Perhaps you only read the first half of my first sentence? That would explain the confusion.
Nope, my confusion comes from the fact that there are no piercing spikes nor spike options within the tantalizer product. I looked through this product inside out :P
But in the mean time I also checked out the store page and now I see what you mean... this "pin" going through the girls b00bs in one of the promo screenies. Not only does that look like horribly faked CGI to me.. it also is in a way; notice the massive clipping? Because that's not an out-of-the-box option within this product.
When you load the complete set you get the tantalizer and several props "applied" to it: meaning, stuff that sits on or in racks around the product: nipple pumps, vibrators, wand.. and 3 stakes or spikes; these are also included as separate a prop.
Thing is: when you load a separate spike it does not go through the girls chest. There are also no pre-made poses for this. Only poses available are those for the whip and the girl (G3 / G8 / G9), but only to position her inside the device.. Not even for the cables / clamps which can be attached to the girls b00bs: these also require manual positioning; cable morphs only make those longer.
Hence my confusion, but now I understand where you're coming from.
Of course you can still manually position a spike like that, but then you get the same fake clipping as you see in that promo shot: it just clips through the figure without anything to make up for it.
And I agree, that's also a little bit too much for me.
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Hello, everyone. Thank you all so much for your input and likes and dislikes. All very much appreciated! I just want to clarify one thing. Many of my products I like to make a much more extreme option to them for those who like that sort of stuff and then a more pleasurable option for others. I want to try an appeal to the largest audience I can. I know that I will never be able to please everyone.
The Idea on many of my products is that you do not have to use them for just what is shown on the product page, but you can use your imagination for a variety of settings and situations to your enjoyment.
My self, I enjoy a lot of things, extreme and non-extreme, I love it all. Edited by user Saturday, August 24, 2024 10:54:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dareshiranu
Not actually support related, but I really like the concept. The only thing is that however much I like the features it offers - all the dials and electrodes and such, I like the face to be visible. So something that is setup very much the same way with control panels and such but with enhanced visibility of more than the torso (I realize that's the main feature of this product) would be more appealing to me.
Torsos are all well and good, but faces are a big draw for me as well I fear. However, you might equally get people who want to see feet for instance, since that's a fetish as well. Personally I don't identify individuals by their feet and only rarely by their torsos.
I posted here because I felt it might draw the creator's attention, but I trust I still succeed if moved.
I also agree about the face. I enjoy seeing the characters face a lot in porn, because it conveys emotion on what is happening, pleasure or pain, that really helps set the mood. DoctorPervic
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Originally Posted by: ZenMaster3D
Originally Posted by: Dareshiranu Now that I look more closely, I think I get it. Perhaps you only read the first half of my first sentence? That would explain the confusion.
Nope, my confusion comes from the fact that there are no piercing spikes nor spike options within the tantalizer product. I looked through this product inside out :P
But in the mean time I also checked out the store page and now I see what you mean... this "pin" going through the girls b00bs in one of the promo screenies. Not only does that look like horribly faked CGI to me.. it also is in a way; notice the massive clipping? Because that's not an out-of-the-box option within this product.
When you load the complete set you get the tantalizer and several props "applied" to it: meaning, stuff that sits on or in racks around the product: nipple pumps, vibrators, wand.. and 3 stakes or spikes; these are also included as separate a prop.
Thing is: when you load a separate spike it does not go through the girls chest. There are also no pre-made poses for this. Only poses available are those for the whip and the girl (G3 / G8 / G9), but only to position her inside the device.. Not even for the cables / clamps which can be attached to the girls b00bs: these also require manual positioning; cable morphs only make those longer.
Hence my confusion, but now I understand where you're coming from.
Of course you can still manually position a spike like that, but then you get the same fake clipping as you see in that promo shot: it just clips through the figure without anything to make up for it.
And I agree, that's also a little bit too much for me.
I understand what you mean, however, I try not to make any of my promos too realistic in torment, as in breast dimps where the stake enters, blood etc... as that is not allowed to be shared on the main page. Edited by user Saturday, August 24, 2024 11:12:05 AM(UTC)
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not offended by these extreme cases - just not a fan. So I'm not drawn (excuse the pun) to the vore and gore stuff so much. That's why I like DP's stuff so much as a rule, so many options. I was simply requesting a variation on a recent product and going by the promo images when I editorialized. This last bit is for DoctorPervic: I'm all for kitbashing, but when the intent is to showcase a product might it be prudent to not include too many items that aren't part of that product, but might be construed as such? I see it on Daz or the other Ren often enough where there are so many extraneous piercings or other things obscure a figure to the point I can't decide if it's one I care about. But maybe that's just me. I can scarcely claim to speak for anyone but myself after all. But I do like your stuff, don't mistake what I meant for a request for criticism.
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So Dareshiranu, I did a little modifications to the Torso Tantalizer. This modification will apply a morph setting that will take away the top controls and allow you to apply a glass shader to the top part of the prop, making it visible. If you like this addition, I can make it a permanent addition to the current product as I think it would make a valuable little addition to the Torso Tantalizer.
Let me know what you think?
https://www.renderotica....c-Torso-Tantalizer-1.jpg
https://www.renderotica....c-Torso-Tantalizer-2.jpg DoctorPervic
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DoctorPervic, I like it. Thanks for the positive response. I'm curious, are the front controls separate? I ask if it might be possible to resize them and adjust the front so that it acts like a window but still has the control interface - something I could do on my end if necessary (and possible). I don't want to ask for the sun, moon, and stars though.
As an aside, your Stackable Fun is hilarious, and I will have to buy that one. It's just too inventive.
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The best I can do is create another slider that shrinks them down and moves them to the side, like this.
https://www.renderotica....Renders/Screenshot_1.jpg
All the edits I do on the product are done in Blender. So if you have Blender and know how to use it or any other 3D software, you can make all the edits you like to the product for your own personal use.
Basically all you need to do is export the product, I use just the standard daz3D export into Blender. Make any changes you want, but make sure you don't merge any vertexis. Then re-import the edit via the Morph loader option inside Daz3D. It should be Edit-Figure-Morph loader.
In Daz3D in the morph loader In the upper right corner where it says show individual setting, drop that down and where it says 100% change it to be 2500% That is assuming you are using blender and no another software. And then choose morph file, select your created morph and import. if everything goes correctly, you will see a sign that says Success.
Then go to your parameters tab and under morphs you should have your new morph you created. Press the little great icon on it and change the -100 to 0 and press accept.
Thats it. You now have a new morph slider you can use on the product that will dial in your new shape or morph. Edited by user Tuesday, August 27, 2024 3:23:22 AM(UTC)
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That should do quite nicely. I really appreciate your going what I'd consider above and beyond. I'll put 'er in my cart toot suite. Many thanks.
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No problem. :), It will take a few days to upload the revisions on the Torso Tantalizer, but once it is approved, you can download the updated version that will have everything applied. I can send you a link when the new version has been approved and is available to download. DoctorPervic
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