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when I bought my cards I was told that they were great for placing the OS on them so windows or any other OS would start up faster.. and they were right, from power on to the windows login screen was like 5-10 seconds. I was also told that they were not like a standard hard drive and not to do a lot of wrting to them and then removing files as the storage properties of the SSD begin to break down. You must never defrag a SSD card.
I have two SSD cards in two different PC's and I have had one PC for 5 years and the other 4 years and my SSD car runs well because I have yet to fill 50% of it's allocated;; space. The OS, Main Poser system for Pro 2014 and 11 some of the apps and virus protectoin programs and little else
My poser runtime is on my D drive as are any games and any office files and programs that do not need to be loaded onto the SSD card.
So for me, My SSD cards run great
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one my cards are Crucial SSD the other is a Samsung both are 250 GB and on both cards I have just over 100 GB of used space.
The Crucial is the oldest card at 5 years old and the Samsung is about 4 years old. MY PCs are custom made and I have had good luck with all my PC's made by them
My oldest is a XP unit some 10 years old now and alI have exchanged was a new hard drive and ehternet card.
I also have one that is 7 years old, 5 years old and 4 years olds of these three they all run win 10 and all have swapped out were hard drives and video cards but the main boards, and memory are sound I think I did swap out a power supply on one and I keep a spare one around if needed.
This company no longer makes units for individuals as they have merged with a corporate company and only does systems now so any PC from now on will be most likely a lenovo as I have had good luck with them over the years
Just purchased one for the wife from Costco. she does not need HD graphics but she has a 1 TB hard drive and a 250 GB SSD and it was $500 delivered
If I ever need one I might just with a higher priced gamer model so I know I get decent on board ram and a mid range nvidia or Ryzen video card with 4-6 GB of on board ram.. But at 71 I am just a few years from giving up doing comics so if my custom built units can last 2-3 more years I might just do it
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I read all the computer magazines (especially the techie ones) religiously every month and have followed their advice on both my graphics computer (that NEVER, EVER goes online) and my internet computer. As Shadowman pointed out, SSD's shouldn't be used for the daily grunt work, only for stuff that needs to load fast. I keep Windows and my programs on it, nothing else. I have a bunch of conventional drives for all that crap. I make sure that all programs don't use the 'C' drive for storage and keep the swap files off of it. Stuff loads almost instantly and over four computer builds, they've been completely fault free.
Nice to see that you're still using good ole ACDSee. I assume it's the classic or V3.1 version? When I was still working we used to deploy to the Mojave Desert for a couple of months in the winter and I loved heading out on the weekends into the desert with my big work camera. I shot hundreds of HDRI panoramas, many of which where in the Gigabyte range and ACDSee was (and still is) the fastest viewer available. Most of the others failed to even open the big damn pictures. Once a year I visit ACDSee and beg them to bring it back....to no avail *sigh*.
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I have a 1TB Samsung EVO that I installed in 2018. It replaced a HDD in my laptop that I bought in 2015. The scariest part of the process was prying open my laptop and ripping out the HDD.
I paid around $150 for it, but the price for such things keep dropping, so I view it more or less as consumable. It's great. Everything runs much faster and is silent and runs much cooler, Drive history according to Samsung Magician is 10.9TB of writes to the drive, so lots of general usage. No glitches like the HDD. It's now more than 65% full, but I dedicated some space (93GB) as slack.
It greatly improved Poser read/write and render speeds and made the program more fun to use vs waiting for renders with the HDD.
I've been considering buying another SDD and using it to mirror/backup the current drive and its contents. I currently use an old 1TB HDD for backups and it's way past time to retire it..
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Originally Posted by: contedesfees 
This is more meditation than rant.
About two and a half years ago, I treated myself to an HP SSD, 512GB. It went belly up after about two years. I replaced it with a Samsung 860 EVO SSD, 250GB, which has received all manner of glowing reviews, some touting its reliability. Still, I'm having problems: intermittent slow saves; Photoshop declined to open a .psd file, citing a disk error; Poser doesn't launch; ACDSee always freezes or crashes within minutes of launching; Windows Explorer works at an unacceptably leisurely pace; and MS Outlook simply can't remember my username and password.
I've learned that hiccups like these often indicate of a failing SSD. Naturally, I don't want to believe that I got two lemons in a row, but I honestly can't think of a more plausible cause for these problems. SSD's, they say, get bad blocks, just as HDD's get bad sectors; so it could be the over-rated (?) Samsung.
I think that maybe it's time to invest in a new hard drive. The question is: do I go back to an HDD or take third chance on an SSD? Or should I just re-install my OS and my programs on the Samsung SSD and see what good comes of it. After all, for all I know, the fault may be the software. Windows 10 scans report that the Samsung SSD is working fine, which might well be the case.
Any thoughts on the matter? Any similar experiences? I'm listening. And thanks.
I wouldn't trust a SSD.
They traded fast access for reliability. There's a phrase - paleo (think university mainframe) computer era - "If architects built buildings like programmers wrote programs, the first woodpecker would destroy civilization" - no way should it be tolerated a drive that will fail in normal operation. Not just you go one day to start your computer and it doesn't work and hope you backed it up (you should regardless) but G-d knows what scrambling could have caused other systems and even the back-ups... I predict we'll end up with a "Computer Prion" due to this - some bit of code/sub-program goes rogue without a malicious human designing it due to failed memory/corrupt storage.
Also they are essentially "Memory Sticks" - same issue really, same technology. But memory sticks are cheap, last a long time as long as not constantly re-written and can be stored unpowered.
Frankly, we shouldn't support this because the manufacturers just go "Ok, we get money, we'll make more" - make it clear you want stuff that'll last LONG after they become 'obsolete' that even when people laugh at a "Pre-Petabyte Era" computer, grandpa can still pull up his collection of non-hyper virtual scans from Penthouse that blown up to a 15 foot high wall or 1000 foot virtual room looks like an ancient greek mosaic... They want good money for the latest gimmicks, why you pay 10x the storage space vs HDD for a SSD - make them sell you something worth it.
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what gets me are all theses laptops being sold with just ssd cards most are 512 B, Yes you get a lightweight unit you can carry with ease but if you have to install flash drives ord have an external drive at your work station that is so much slower I just do not know.
I enjoyt ACDSEE but newer version have made such easy to use pic editors into something more complex.. I am up to version 19 and I should have just stayed with version 12 My old XP system has version 3.1
Gonna mis that PC when it crashes.. I have a lite version of Photoshop on it and I go in from time to time and play castle wolfenstien
I have the new order but my newer PC's do not have the video card to support it and I'm not a big fan of streaming, Plus the New order makes you watch a 30m video clip before the game ver starts.. so somewhere down the line I need a better video card but I will have to use some sort of adapter to get DVI out to VGA My next KVI switch will employ HDMI as I now have a Monitor that suppoerts it. Who knows what lurks in the hearts of perverted artist....
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My experience with the first and only SSD I've ever bought has been mostly problem free, and the only problem I've had with it is its size, 128GB. It's been installed in my tower now for at least 8 years, maybe 9. Here's the thing, though. All, and I mean ALL of my nonessential files are installed on a secondary or tertiary HDD drive. I have a 2TB drive for storage of things like photos, videos, and my backup of my installs of Studio, Poser, Photoshop, etc. My tertiary drive is a 500GB unit that has all of my program files installed on it. SO really, my C: drive doesn't have to do a lot outside of start the computer and run essential programs. Perhaps that's why it's lived so long.
If it's reading this, BEHAVE! I have no interest in replacing you.
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Originally Posted by: contedesfees
Matt, I'm doing precisely as you do. My OS and my programs (and very little else) are installed on the SSD; the files I work with are installed on other drives. Yet, my PC is behaving like a troublesome thug, a recalcitrant mistress, a faithless minister, an undisciplined recruit. And this all began when I installed the Samsung SSD.
I really wish I were PC-savvy enough to figure out exactly what's wrong. I'm afraid replacing the only culprit I can identify is the easiest and the most obvious solution.
Cheers, thanks for yours, and stay safely outside the whirlwind.
It's certainly possible that the computer world DP'd you, getting two bum units in a go. My computer building friend swears by SSD's though, and he built mine. My only regret is that I didn't go for a 512MB, but back when I built it the cost went up exponentially by the MB, so 128 it is. Have you tried running any cleaning programs on it? I use CCleaner for a daily enema, and every couple of months I run File Shredder's free space wipe, and that keeps the clutter out. Also, a defrag every now and then doesn't hurt. I've heard people say that defragging and wipes on an SSD will shorten their usable life, but I can't see how it could be any worse than deleting or moving files, the 'trap doors' as they're called are still opening and closing.
If that doesn't speed things up, I assume that you have no bloatware like McCaffee or any of that shit that can come preinstalled on store bought machines? A lot of that crap can fire up in the background on every startup, and slow you down significantly. I only ask this because I have no idea of your knowledge of the inner workings of these pigs that we rely on for our hobby. I had an ex gf that had a laptop that was like molasses in January, and it suffered from all of those problems. It was lightening fast by comparison by the time I was done with it. DId you build or have your machine built custom, or is it a 'gaming' unit from Best Buy or some other place?
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Doing a deep cleaning often reveals/cures problems, as does installing the latest drivers for all hardware. My HP laptop was loaded with bloatware when I acquired it. The printer utilities (also an HP product) proved to be on-going problems. I changed my printer to an Epson and that helped a lot. HP's fingerprint reader caused me lots of mysterious problems, 'til I fixed it with tape over the reader. This bloatware and hardware constantly checking for updates was at the root of many of my slow saves, stalls, freezes, and other intermittent issues. "Uninstall" is your friend.
I use a Samsung SSD and use Samsung's Magician software to check it for errors (none found todate) and to manage it. Make sure that you have some portion of the SSD overprovisioned (i.e., slack or empty). Magician can recommend the correct amount.
I use Webroot as my malware protection as it has a much smaller footprint than McAfee and Norton and, in my experience, seems to run better in the background and play better with software and hardware than other anti-virus programs I've used.
My graphics card (Intel on board graphics system) also conflicted with Windows updates for some time until Microsoft and Intel got their respective acts together. When Windows does a major update, that's when my machine starts to exhibit problems.
HP, Intel and Microsoft support are in my experience, worthless in tracking down intermittent hardware issue. Tom's Hardware is my go-to for technical support, but much of it is over my head..
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I never had problems with SSD whereas some HDDs failed me.
Currently I use the following setup:
- Mac with internal SSD for Studio
- 4TB External HDD for DIM downloads and purchases from other sites
- 1TB External SSD for the library/runtime (which will be replaced by a 2TB one soon)
So every ZIP goes either manually or automatically to the external HDD and is kept there. I don't delete after install and have also set DIM that way.
The stuff I install goes to the external SSD which is fast and did not make any problems yet.
That way once I'm on the go the only thing I need to carry is the external SSD which is tiny and robust so I don't have to take extra care.
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