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Went over to Renderosity to check out what they have for sale and what is new for DS and again about a third of the stuff on the sales banner at the top of the page is Poser. I have even seen them advertising Poser on sale on the DS sale page. Just an obversation.
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Not surprising really. Renderosity owns Poser. In a year's time, there will be two warring camps: Renderosity/Poser versus DAZ3D/DAZ Studio. I'm sure there are vendors currently at Renderosity who in the fullness of time will appear exclusively at DAZ3D; after all, many are increasingly making and selling products meant for DAZ Studio. Live long and render
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In the past certain vendors have either been chosen or most likely paid a fee to have the highlighted spot at the top of the first products page.. Most likely Rendo is now promoting themselves and taking the top 4 blocks on the page..
Most of the poser gear is aimed at Le Femme and her male counterpart. If I order tuff it's usually backdrops . I enjoy some of the sets fro STX as ne also makes go to poses for V4 and M4 anything that getiing a set ready quicker is a plus in my book
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I don't see Rendo going full Poser, at least not anytime soon. So many of their current vendors cater exclusively to Studio. Still, I can't fault them for pushing their product.
I work in the auto industry, in what's known as 'after sales'. When I'm talking to a customer about a product that they need for their vehicle, I will always push the OEM piece first, even though I can get an equivalent aftermarket piece that will suit them and cost less. Why? Easy...profit. That's how I get paid, so that's my first course. They can always ask about alternatives, and I will oblige them, but it's not my first choice. Rendo is doing exactly that. They're putting their product front and center, even though you may be shopping for something else. It's just smart business.
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I think the top slots are paid for on any sales page. I do a search for poser stuff, DS stuff pops up at the top. Lafemme seems to be garnering a lot more support. If someone could do some proper bits for her huu-huu, that would be great, then I'll start doing poses for her on my products. Nod nod - wink wink, say no more, say no more😁
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Originally Posted by: davo  . Nod nod - wink wink, say no more, say no more😁
Your wife, is she a goer? ;)
I'm sure he's had an ass-full of content creation, but if EroGenesis were to create something for LaFemme similar to Lali's Bits, he'd have a home run.
Too bad that Smith Micro/Rendo haven't addressed the lack of something like geografting in Poser. That was my main reason for moving over to Studio. What's that? Genitals that I don't have to adjust every time I change the pose? Let's have a look at this...
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Originally Posted by: shadoman In the past certain vendors have either been chosen or most likely paid a fee to have the highlighted spot at the top of the first products page.. Most likely Rendo is now promoting themselves and taking the top 4 blocks on the page.
Hmmm. Did not realize that the vendors had to pay for their sale ads at Renderosity. And I dod not realized there was cross pollination of the Daz model adds on the Poser new stuff. Heck, I can;t even get Rendo to send me sale emails from the vendors I follow any more. I contacted them about it and they basically gave up on trying to fix it even though I have sent multiple requests for the vendor sale emails. So I don't spend as much money with them as I used to because In am not notified of sales. That leavers more money to spend here and at DAZ. Bill
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Originally Posted by: matt I don't see Rendo going full Poser, at least not anytime soon. So many of their current vendors cater exclusively to Studio.
That is exactly what I mean, matt. Those vendors sooner or later will realize that they might be better off selling at DAZ3D. Renderosity will be pushing Poser and those vendors are producing for DAZ Studio. Certainly, Renderosity won't boot them out; I predict that they - not all but many - will vote with their feet (as the saying goes) and voluntarily leave for warmer, more welcoming climes. Ironman13 hasn't made a Poser product in years and even 3D-Age is testing the DAZ Studio waters. Mark my words. We shall witness a seismic shift! Live long and render
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I hope Rendo would never become dumb enough to go "Poser Only". I would imagine that the majority of their sales comes Daz related products at this time.
Regarding La Femme and L'Homme, I had hoped they would at least update things for Poser users over G2M the last DSON supported character, but I think the following is a good example of how far it still has to go:
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The two characters and their design and rigging are just miles apart :-/
Which is gonna suck bad for poser users since the next version of Poser has a new version of python that doesn't support the DSON script. Edited by moderator Monday, July 6, 2020 10:07:50 PM(UTC)
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It doesn't help that La Femme is medioure at best, while L'homme is basically terrible.
I honestly consider them a step back from M4 and V4 in quality and would use G1 over both any day of the week.
Hell, I kinda like G1 over G8 sometimes and would probably still be using it if there was modern support in some of the more... imtimate bits.
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Well, they bought Poser, so they have to push it as much as they can, which is understandable. But would be better if they updated it (real updates, no superficial patch) if they really want to resurrect it. I don't see pushing LaFemme and LeHomme creepy-looking stuff making any good. They are just salt in the wound. Might as well use banners to promote products that actually sell.
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Originally Posted by: Hellboy I don't see pushing LaFemme and LeHomme creepy-looking stuff making any good. They are just salt in the wound. Might as well use banners to promote products that actually sell.
How in the world will La Femme and L'Homme compete effectively with Genesis 8? And let's face it: those banners are promoting DAZ Studio products. We have interesting days ahead of us. Live long and render
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I think Daz has the market share of sales. I know my DS version stuff here outsells poser more than 2 to 1. I assume its the same at renderosity as well, so I figure there is no way they are going to push down on selling DS stuff. I think that Daz3d also has a more stringent and fussy testing staff and I know that towards the end of my go with them back when poser was still the thing, my products started getting rejected and they got fussy with very minor things, so I said to hell with them and stopped submitting there. Vendors at Rosity might have the same issues with their DS products, so they go with renderosity. Just my opinion and 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by: contedesfees
Originally Posted by: Hellboy I don't see pushing LaFemme and LeHomme creepy-looking stuff making any good. They are just salt in the wound. Might as well use banners to promote products that actually sell.
How in the world will La Femme and L'Homme compete effectively with Genesis 8? And let's face it: those banners are promoting DAZ Studio products. We have interesting days ahead of us.
They won't. They don't look as good and Poser lacks a number of critical features that Daz has had for years.
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I got Poser 11 as my first 3D program pretty much right when it came out as a pose-doll app for drawing comix. I chose it over DAZ because there seemed to be a reasonable amount of morphability for character creation, rather than having to buy other people's creations. Of course, it turned out that Poser isn't really that good a tool for that, so I moved to Blender to learn how to make stuff from scratch- still working on that- and then picked up CC3 so I could get back to comix- my real focus- and it seems like what I was hoping Poser would be, except that for some reason mine is bugged since their update- no matter how many times I reinstall it, it puts faces on the neck for OBJ exports to Blender... Anyway, I think Poser will continue to compete with DAZ because it SEEMS like it has the potential to generate a lot of characters at no additional cost, while DAZ is a massive cash sink. If Rendo really did update the underlying mechanics and put out a couple of decent base models it could seriously eat into DAZ's market- especially if they made it cheap and easy to use DAZ assets on Poser figures. That's probably not gonna happen though...
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Originally Posted by: Voronov Anyway, I think Poser will continue to compete with DAZ because it SEEMS like it has the potential to generate a lot of characters at no additional cost
Honestly, Poser has not been competition since a long time ago.
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Renderosity bought Poser? When the hell did that happen? Damn, I have been out of the loop for a while I guess...
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Now it is really getting bad over at Rendo. I found 6 different click bait ads at the bottom of the 20% off coupon page. What does Precious's weight loss, a Tech meltdown, auto insurance, reverse mortgages, online slot machines, and auto detailing tricks have to do with digital art? Sheesh. Bill
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Originally Posted by: billyben
Now it is really getting bad over at Rendo. I found 6 different click bait ads at the bottom of the 20% off coupon page. What does Precious's weight loss, a Tech meltdown, auto insurance, reverse mortgages, online slot machines, and auto detailing tricks have to do with digital art? Sheesh.
I also noticed this. Actually the general quality of asset sites is ***** terrible. You'd think being artist focused someone with a clue would have a word with the web developers. I include this site in that. It's very slow and looks like it was built in 2001. Daz's store looks very nice. It really showcases the products well.
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