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westcat  
#1 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2019 11:34:10 PM(UTC)
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I have been recently considering hard going over to DAZ3D due to all the new products being made for G8 DAZ3D.  However when compared to Poser it seem that DAZ has a brutally slow render speed.


I like to make animations, and this is just not going to work unless there is a better render engine out there than IRay ...


This is the computer I am getting soon I trust it should be enough to imprive my render times with either Poser or DAZ?  Getting this new computer in a week.      CyberPowerPC - Gaming Desktop - Intel Core i7-9700K - 32GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super - 2TB Hard Drive + 512GB SSD - White

Besides 32GB of RAM will 512 GB of SSD help at all ?  


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#2 Posted : Monday, November 25, 2019 1:08:37 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: westcat Go to Quoted Post



I have been recently considering hard going over to DAZ3D due to all the new products being made for G8 DAZ3D.  However when compared to Poser it seem that DAZ has a brutally slow render speed.


I like to make animations, and this is just not going to work unless there is a better render engine out there than IRay ...


This is the computer I am getting soon I trust it should be enough to imprive my render times with either Poser or DAZ?  Getting this new computer in a week.      CyberPowerPC - Gaming Desktop - Intel Core i7-9700K - 32GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super - 2TB Hard Drive + 512GB SSD - White

Besides 32GB of RAM will 512 GB of SSD help at all ?  


If you're running an Nvidia card, the CPU won't matter. I use a GTX 1080, and my render times are reasonable, depending on the scene. I don't animate, though, so I can't weigh in on that.


SnarltheWerewolf  
#3 Posted : Monday, November 25, 2019 8:07:24 AM(UTC)
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Put *all* your pennies towards the graphic card.

Seriously, if waiting an extra paycheck means you can go up a notch in graphic cards then do so. If you can't, I'd cut the memory to 16gb an use the extra $100 or so to get a better graphics card. Memory is easy to upgrade, graphics cards means replacing and losing out on the money you spent on the old card (unless you can still return it)

When Iray was brand new, I spent a good 8 months basically buying a new video card, discovering it wasn't what good enough, and either exchanging it and pay more or have it go out of the refund period and have to buy a new one at full price. That madness ended when I bit the bullet and bought a 980ti and was very happy. Until the 1080ti came out. 1080ti had enough features (particularly the extra 3gb of memory) to make it worthwhile to jump to the next generation.

Still running the 1080ti, but saving up for the Titan RTX as that again is a massive upgrade and will last me a long time, the same way that the 1080ti has lasted me 3+ years now.
sumigo  
#4 Posted : Monday, November 25, 2019 11:28:23 AM(UTC)
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Hello westcat,


Here is how Iray works, as I understand it. 


The system will determine how much memory a scene will use when you first press the 'render' button in DAZ. 


1. If the amount of memory of the scene is less then the amount of ram on your GPU (assuming you have all the correct setting in the IRAY advanced tab) it will render on your GPU, which is the quick and best way to power through the render.


2. If the amount of memory of the scene is greater then the memory of your GPU it will go to CPU render mode, which even on the best CPU's is just not worth waiting for., Anytime this happens I immediately cancel and look at ways to lower the memory usage.


3. I also have a 1080 ti and it is okay to animate with in the newest version of DAZ. They just upgraded the software, it is faster overall, is more efficient in ram usage in real time while navigating the work space etc. And it has a 'denoiser' which lowers render times considerably., you can find in in the 'Render Settings' tab under 'Filter'.


There are caveats to this though, I am animating my first comic/animation hybrid using the above, but I am mostly using it with simple scenes that use low memory and that look very good at say 75% complete, with the denoiser turned on and with image quality set to medium (medium for me anyway). I have several Stimuli animations already completed with 300 iterations per page, and yes they could be better but they look great and will be in the comic.


 


Final summary, yes you shoud get the best GPU that you can afford. In fact if possible and if I had the cash I would look at a professional GPU, preferably one with 24 GB. But that is a dream build.


 


Thunder-3D  
#5 Posted : Monday, November 25, 2019 1:34:18 PM(UTC)
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As several have already said, memory is your #1 most important Stat on the card , with the cores being a close second.


Keeping your background scenery reasonable will also make a big difference on render times. :)


Zaavaleta  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, November 26, 2019 5:04:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: westcat Go to Quoted Post



  CyberPowerPC - Gaming Desktop - Intel Core i7-9700K - 32GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super - 2TB Hard Drive + 512GB SSD - White



With those stats you should be good for about 4-6 months. What, you haven't heard about Nvidia's QTX series coming out? It'll make everything out now obsolete. Of course it'll take another 6-8 months before applications are optimized for the QTX cores (or Qores?). Once it's up and running it promises faster than real-time raytracing(quantum cores start rendering before you hit the render button), 73 lane PCI-E bus for some reason and DDR7 memory.


All joking aside, you don't need a super fast processor for Iray rendering. You typically need about 2-3 times as much system RAM as what's on your card, so 32GB is good. My system, for example, is severely limited with 16Gb, I usually have to shut down Firefox and Chrome and it still maxes out system RAM while the GPU is only using 8Gb or so.


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