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cthulhu069  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 12, 2024 11:29:26 AM(UTC)
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Been using Daz for years as a hobby, finally decided to jump to Blender and get serious about creating 3D erotica, and literally about a month later the "Great AI Explosion" happened.


There is a lot of tremendous AI erotic art showing up in various places (*deleted*, for example).   Seems this is an area growing by the day.  


What engines are you all using for your AI erotica creation?   StableDiff is the only one I know that runs on a local PC, all the others are hosted on the internet, which I would be leery of typing too much erotic content into. 


Anyone who has some guidance, I'd be grateful.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2024 1:53:43 PM(UTC)
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Not fully sure what you're referring to with "AI explosion" but.. to be honest I'm not really feeling any magic here. What I am seeing though is a sales model being worked on and hyped up.


Most of the time when people talk about AI they in fact are referring to a database which simply uses a specific algorithm to find and present the results. Yet because of that the outcome is more than often both predictable and very limited on its own.


For example... "Girl tied to wooden table, ready for spanking" => woosh! your result.


(edit): links to external websites are frowned upon here, best stick to Renderotica only.


Wait... that wasn't what I meant. Ah: "Girl tied to wooden chair, ready for spanking!", and lo and behold: the engine now resized the same prop to make it look more like a chair. Easy!


Now, I'm obviously exaggerating a little bit here, but generally speaking this is how many of those engines work: they only provide a limited amount of assets and customizations, where the emphasis is on "easy" such as applying different colors and such. Ease of use is the main force behind AI it seems, and that's very relative to context.


But the moment you want something more specific then most of these fall apart. If not right away then most definitely over time when you will eventually notice the limitations. Of course that usually happens after you paid for some kind of subscription so... in the end you're left with pretty much nothing and get to start all over again ;)


Let's not forget that AI is still set up by humans ;)


Human imagination, especially of the dirty mind, almost has no limits. 


I mean, with all due respect but even Skyrim players who got a bit fed up with the often erotics showing up still had to admit that several character skin texturing was completely insane with regards to the attention for detail.


Several still grabbed characters from "naughty places", not necessarily to get access to nude figures, but more so because the quality was that good.


I don't see AI reaching those heights any time soon the be honest.

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2024 3:11:32 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cthulhu069 Go to Quoted Post


Been using Daz for years as a hobby, finally decided to jump to Blender and get serious about creating 3D erotica, and literally about a month later the "Great AI Explosion" happened.


There is a lot of tremendous AI erotic art showing up in various places (*deleted*, for example).   Seems this is an area growing by the day.  


What engines are you all using for your AI erotica creation?   StableDiff is the only one I know that runs on a local PC, all the others are hosted on the internet, which I would be leery of typing too much erotic content into. 


Anyone who has some guidance, I'd be grateful.



The AI porn is usually a single pose image. I have yet to see an AI gallery / photo shoot that transports you to a scene. A big turn off for me is the weird hands in AI porn. Go take a look. Not all of them have this issue. But many do. The potential with DAZ3D, Blender, Maya, etc. is vastly greater than current AI technologies. I am sure it will improve in time. But it will be a few more years I think.


AI porn is fine for those that don't have the skill or time to really create complex porn environments, and are satisfied with a single image.

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2024 3:13:08 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cthulhu069 Go to Quoted Post


Been using Daz for years as a hobby, finally decided to jump to Blender and get serious about creating 3D erotica, and literally about a month later the "Great AI Explosion" happened.


There is a lot of tremendous AI erotic art showing up in various places (*deleted*, for example).   Seems this is an area growing by the day.  


What engines are you all using for your AI erotica creation?   StableDiff is the only one I know that runs on a local PC, all the others are hosted on the internet, which I would be leery of typing too much erotic content into. 


Anyone who has some guidance, I'd be grateful.



Forgot to add, your link was edited by a moderator. Can you message it to me so I can check it out?


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#5 Posted : Thursday, March 14, 2024 4:06:46 AM(UTC)
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Stable Diffusion.


I am experimenting with Magnific to enhance/upscale my AI and 3D images.


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SD and ComfyUI are my tools of choice. It's not that easy and takes a lot of time to get used to it

It's not just text input that leads to good images. We see enough of that here, too, simple, probably quickly generated images that somehow all look the same.

What you can achieve with DAZ3D or Poser is currently difficult to implement with AI tools. Namely, getting people to interact in a targeted manner.

But - AI can do something else much better and easier if you really get to grips with it. Coherent, atmospherically exciting lighting and, at first glance, an overall artistic and imaginative overall design. Yes, hands and feet are a problem - but who knows for how long.
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#7 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2024 9:20:35 AM(UTC)
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I’ve played around with some of the AI tools, and while it’s fun for making simple images, they get weird with hands or poses sometimes. You’ll see a lot of those one-off images, but getting something really detailed or interactive? Not there yet.
But if you’re into more than just visuals, I found using a sexting AI tool to be pretty wild. It’s a different vibe, more about the conversation than just staring at a picture.

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#8 Posted : Sunday, March 9, 2025 9:09:51 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Instoyque Go to Quoted Post


I’ve played around with some of the AI tools, and while it’s fun for making simple images, they get weird with hands or poses sometimes. You’ll see a lot of those one-off images, but getting something really detailed or interactive? Not there yet



Its a matter of understanding the tools. There are a lot of them, and they're changing all the time, hard to keep up. I'd start with its not "either/or" with Blender vs AI  . . . they both have their place in your toolbox. If, say, you want to design some clever new torture device, of the Dendras/Davo variety, do that in 3D, you've got much more control in the design. But having made it, you can use that design with AI tools to generate better looking images more easily with AI tool, think of it like a render engine


There are usually lots of ways of doing things. So take, for example, the vexed problem of hands. Here are three ways to control hand positions, and they're far from the only ones.
 


  • Use ControlNets with photos of the precise pose you want. This can be a photograph, or if you've got Daz or Poser, even better, render out a depth map of the hand position and use that as a depth map input in the ControlNet
  • Use a LORA, a specialized plug in that's trained on very particular groups of images, like, say "handjob"
  • Inpainting -- lots of folks get frustrated trying to get everything in one iteration. That's not how art works in general, nor how AI works. Get something that's roughly how how you like, then look at specific wonky things and inpaint them. "Inpainting" -- means doing a rendering with a new prompt for some specific detail, rather than the entire image. So you could, for example, inpaint the hands on an individual using a  ControlNet input for the specific hand position you want.
     

As for hardcore, you'll find one particular website where most of the models are stored, but bear in mind the differences, and this gets complicated


  • Stable Diffusion 1.5 -- this was the first release that most people used, and the first X rated checkpoint that I used was something called "Hassan's Blend". 1.5 is still good for pinup type images, 1girl or very simple 2 character stuff. "Chillout Mix" was quite popular, but if you're using 1.5, I'd pick EpicPhotoGasm as something that pretty good quality. It'll need some LORAs and Embeddings to get kinky, but it is nice looking. SD 1.5 is particularly responsive to ControlNets.
  • Stable Diffusion 2 and 2.1 -- were duds, no activity
  • SDXL -- huge. step up over 1.5, working with 1024 x 1024 images natively. A raft of good checkpoint models, I'd pick Realism_By_Stable_Yogi as an example of a good one, but there are lots
  • Pony -- this is a reworking of SDXL, and is typically going to be what I'd choose for doing sex stuff. Image quality may not be quite as good as SDXL or Flux, but the posing is much better. If you're trying to get a suspension scene, for example -- Pony models are  the most responsive to text prompts. I would pick "Cyberrealistic Pony" as a good _realistic_ Pony Checkpoint (there are a ton of anime / hentai Pony checkpoints -- but I've never used them so can't recommend one)
  • FLUX -- amazing image quality, but quite hard to prompt with. For complicated posing, you'll usually want to use something like FLUX Gym to build a LORA out of desired poses. FLUX is beautiful, but it is hard to prompt  . . . I use it for the image quality, but its a struggle to get characters to do what I'd like. One way to do it would be to pose your characters in Daz or Poser, generate a simple render, and then use that as an image input to tell Flux what to do. Of the FLUX erotic Checkpoints, I can recommend Getphat FLUX Reality NSFW . . . but there are a lot them; this one is good at least.

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