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Years ago there was a very active Japanese community with a lot of free weird stuff. With Poser dominating the market there were a lot of free kinky stuffs available.
With the Daz domination, all those free "adult" things have disappeared, or maybe I'm not able to find them ? I think there are many reasons for this, but it's not my business : I'm a customer and I don't like to be in this monopolistic situation, that's why I upgrade my poser regularly even if I'm not using it. I don't know how long I will subsidize such a software.
I'm perfectly ok to pay for my menial deviations, but where are they ???
Here in Renderotica, there's alas a lot of unusable things to my pervert purposes : My prime interest is outdoor bondage scenes, with trees to hang DID and so on.
I was a long user of Eon/Vue, but there's no simple bridge to connect DazStudio and Vue as it was the case with Poser.
I really love some Meipe products for instance but for the rest .... 3feetwolf is not very reactive, Davo is way out of the market, Powerage is providing sub-par products.
I will not mention older products from Dendras and RK these are soooo old, but still very usable with a lot of tweaks in DazStudio Iray and G8 : that's too sad to mention : Why are those things are not simply updated ????
My very last hope is to try to learn how to use Blender : not that easy for an aging guy !
I will not mention the "armament" course : to be able to use DazStudio you need the latest Nvidia video cards with an enormous amount of memory ; not to mention the electricity bill attached. Edited by user Tuesday, March 23, 2021 1:05:25 PM(UTC)
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Most vendors will not update old products because they prefer to invest time in new projects.
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I will not mention the "armament" course : to be able to use DazStudio you need the latest Nvidia video cards with an enormous amount of memory ; not to mention the electricity bill attached.
You don't even need an Nvidia card. I rendered without one using Iray for years. Yes, CPU is slower, but it's perfectly doable. I recently got an RTX 3080 because it's a job investment for me, but some weeks ago I was still rendering very comfortable with an old 1080Ti, and many people go with much less. So you definitely don't need either the latest ones or a huge amount of memory, unless you go overboard with your scenes (which in the worst case, will use CPU instead). That is also completely ignoring 3Delight and Filament.
My electricity bill never got affected by video cards.  DAZ STUDIO USER SINCE 2006
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Originally Posted by: Seven-ol
Years ago there was a very active Japanese community with a lot of free weird stuff. With Poser dominating the market there were a lot of free kinky stuffs available.
With the Daz domination, all those free "adult" things have disappeared, or maybe I'm not able to find them ? I think there are many reasons for this, but it's not my business : I'm a customer and I don't like to be in this monopolistic situation, that's why I upgrade my poser regularly even if I'm not using it. I don't know how long I will subsidize such a software.
I'm perfectly ok to pay for my menial deviations, but where are they ???
Here in Renderotica, there's alas a lot of unusable things to my pervert purposes : My prime interest is outdoor bondage scenes, with trees to hang DID and so on.
I was a long user of Eon/Vue, but there's no simple bridge to connect DazStudio and Vue as it was the case with Poser.
I really love some Meipe products for instance but for the rest .... 3feetwolf is not very reactive, Davo is way out of the market, Powerage is providing sub-par products.
I will not mention older products from Dendras and RK these are soooo old, but still very usable with a lot of tweaks in DazStudio Iray and G8 : that's too sad to mention : Why are those things are not simply updated ????
My very last hope is to try to learn how to use Blender : not that easy for an aging guy !
I will not mention the "armament" course : to be able to use DazStudio you need the latest Nvidia video cards with an enormous amount of memory ; not to mention the electricity bill attached.
I use Poser for my renderings and it suits me just fine. I'm too lazy to invest in the DAZ learning curve. I've figured out how to re-texture some of the older props in Poser and that adds a lot of life to them.
I've found Flink's trees and outdoor props to be best fof outdoor renderings, but composition and rendering can be quite resource intensive.
Here's an example of an outdoor scene using Flink's props
BDSM Autumn Colors - Gallery Comments - Renderotica - Gallery - BDSM-Autumn-Colors - Gallery - BDSM-Autumn-Colors
I do my rendering on a laptop with integrated Intel graphics -- no Nvidia investment -- and it does just fine. The best investment I've made in speeding up rendering times and making Poser more usable was swapping my HDD for a SSD. Edited by user Wednesday, March 24, 2021 10:26:40 AM(UTC)
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I remember those oriental freebies from the past.. remember Trans Map hair? at the time they were far more advanced than the Poser hair crap and even what DAZ created for poser figures..
For now Davo seems to be the only Poser creator for BDSM gear, but you can find collars and chastity belts at the other place, Flink makes some great gear as well including outdoor scenes. You just have to look and when in doubt use the search engines at these store fronts
I doubt we will ever see kinky gear coming from DAZ but other vendors can be creatiive l
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Originally Posted by: Seven-ol
I will not mention older products from Dendras and RK these are soooo old, but still very usable with a lot of tweaks in DazStudio Iray and G8 : that's too sad to mention : Why are those things are not simply updated ????
I think Dendras retired many years ago; IIRC, back when he announced he was about to shut down his own storefront and retire from Poser production entirely, I bought his "complete works" pack (on physical CDs, to give you an idea how long ago it was), because I don't think they were even available on Renderotica at that point, and I wanted to grab them before they disappeared. I would bet there are several vendors of older products like that who are simply not around to update their stuff any more.
I did notice that Freeone, who apparently handles the DAZ Studio conversions of Davo's sets, has released updated versions of a handful of Dendras props with Iray shaders and poses for the newer characters.
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I also have all of Dendras' props he was nice enough to gift them to me..
but they were geared mostly for V-3 his sets still work though even in poser pro 2014
I think Dendras became a vetranarian. His stuff is still for sale in the store Who knows what lurks in the hearts of perverted artist....
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Originally Posted by: shadoman
I doubt we will ever see kinky gear coming from DAZ but other vendors can be creatiive l
In my opinion gear is as kinky as the artist who is using it ;) And there's plenty of goodies to grab over there, from ropes (with prop poses) to tie up your figures (mostly gf3 & gf8), dungeons with ready-to-use shackles to position a figure and of course plenty of gizmo's which can be used in a, ahem, "alternative" way :P
For example... the cryo lab (iirc we're not allowed to link to other places?) provides tubes in which you can easily place a humanoid figure. You can't have them nekkid on the Daz gallery but you can do that here. Place someone oggling them in front of it and I think you got something kinky up your sleave.
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Seven-ol, are you referring to those great Reika props? Their/his site has been down for a few years and I don't see much of this sort of stuff being produced anymore, as you mentioned. Those wonderful toys from Dendras, Kawecki(sp?) Davo and others is still all very usable in Studio. I'll apply the Iray uber shader and maybe fiddle with a texture or two but it looks and works great and even the new ladies like Genesis 8 love those fun toys. If I don't want to wait for a render I just use 3Delight which works like gangbusters and is much faster than Iray, especially on modest systems.
You're right, there was a much more varied and innovative group of content creators back in Poser's youth. Daz has done everything it can to stifle originality, especially in the pervy world. I keep wishing that Poser would build native support for Daz formatted items which I feel would jump start the independent artists all over again. unfortunately I don't feel that Rendo is smart enough to do that.
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Originally Posted by: brookes Seven-ol, are you referring to those great Reika props? Their/his site has been down for a few years and I don't see much of this sort of stuff being produced anymore, as you mentioned. Those wonderful toys from Dendras, Kawecki(sp?) Davo and others is still all very usable in Studio. I'll apply the Iray uber shader and maybe fiddle with a texture or two but it looks and works great and even the new ladies like Genesis 8 love those fun toys. If I don't want to wait for a render I just use 3Delight which works like gangbusters and is much faster than Iray, especially on modest systems.
You're right, there was a much more varied and innovative group of content creators back in Poser's youth. Daz has done everything it can to stifle originality, especially in the pervy world. I keep wishing that Poser would build native support for Daz formatted items which I feel would jump start the independent artists all over again. unfortunately I don't feel that Rendo is smart enough to do that.
I'm extremely worried by the supremacy of Daz : being a bit paranoid, I'm beginning to think that the Genesis eight point one, is a subtle way to circumvent non "Daz-correct" geografts ... Let's hope I'm wrong !
Rendo is also going to a semi-prude way, in a much more hypocritical way : there are a lot of undies for all sorts of tastes, but no real bondage props for instance.
As for all those Japanese weird things creators, I don't know if they totally disappeared or if they are hidden somewhere on the internet ?
Do you remember Haru ? She was not realistic at all but such a horny Manga style figure !
In DazStudio, there's no simple way to manipulate meshes, like the morphing tool is poser : I bought the mesh grabber tool, but I'm still trying to understand how it works correctly. I'm still trying to make indentations for ropes for instance.
As I said my main use of these 3d programs is for "DID" semi-nude, not particularly frontal nudity ...
The only tool available is VirtualWorldDynamics, which is still a bit buggy and hard to understand. Gerald seems to be too busy to improve it.
The only way to get around these limitations with a limited budget is probably Blender, but the beast is hard to handle !
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The world does seem to move on. There use to be a long list of poser sites with all kinds of content. There were a bunch of fan fiction sites with piles of poser content, several kinky/adult sites of poser content and a huge number of sites that had some 'adult' content. Most people selling poser stuff had their own site or at least a site with a friend or two. The ISP's tended to give you free space to put up a site or two, not to even get into all the places that would give you free space for a web site. Geo Cities was fun. A lot of the free has left the net. Every town use to have 'that' section of town with bars and adult stuff. That seems to have also gone also.
I had some free stuff here, but some where in the upgrades it went away. The stuff was also on several other sites, but either the sites went away or the upgrades got things pushed out. Had a couple free sites, but they went away. Seems internet companies had a hard time staying in business hosting free sites. My ISP killed my site a couple times for being adult and now don't give you space to host a site any more. Had some stuff on a couple of movie fan sites, but they went away also.
Besides, who really wants cuffs, rope stuff and even non kinky stuff for Vicky 3. Updating isn't any fun.Oh ya, look at my avatar, Vicky 3 with a nice cuff setup :)
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Originally Posted by: Seven-ol
Do you remember Haru ? She was not realistic at all but such a horny Manga style figure !
Chocolate is a vendor here so some stuff is available here including Haru.
Originally Posted by: Seven-ol In DazStudio, there's no simple way to manipulate meshes, like the morphing tool is poser : I bought the mesh grabber tool, but I'm still trying to understand how it works correctly. I'm still trying to make indentations for ropes for instance.
While there is no morphing tool in Daz Studio, there are other options as far as rope indentations like you mentioned. There is Mesh Grabber, there are dformers, you can set collision on the base figure, and set the ropes as the collision object. And those are just the tools I can think of, I'm sure there are other tools that are available to accomplish the task that I'm not aware of..
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gone are the days of multiple websites about the net that catered to all sorts of stuff.
some were absorbed by the remaining two sites that will remain nameless but lets face it they really catered to V-3 M-3 stuff
Cannot really say there is a monopoly of content as long as at least the two site and our's remain afloat.
I can say my dislike of Poser 11 and it's a personal one in regards to how everything works and how the Python scripts were re-done that I did not buy P-12 and I never will unless something makes P-14 pro unusable.. and all that is a pain in the but is a small security issue that nobody want to pick up SM says it not there problem as the other place owns the rights to Poser and that site seems to only want to take care of P-11 and P-12 so every time I load P14 pro I have to concede that I will run the program with a security issue missing
I am winding down with maybe a few comics left for me to do.. My problem will be what to do with some 90+ comics.. do I remove them? or sell the rights.. They still provide me with a little income and that is what keeps me going.. for now
well anyway a toast to the good old days.
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*deleted* is very open to adult items and they charge a minimal fee. Then there's Summoner at *deleted* who charges nothing for people to sell their products there.
I feel that Daz is not long for this world as they seem to be getting increasingly desperate. Studio gets buggier with every release and they don't seem to want to fix it.
Their customer support gets worse month by month and this new NFT crap has become a laughing stock in the forums. If Rendo would just put their damn "Poser only"
ego in the garbage and add Daz format functionality to Poser, I believe it would open a whole new world for them.
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any reference to a website via link that has a storefront is against the revised TOS and that is why you see a "deleted" on your post. we are not allowed to even mention sites even without a link
trust me circumventing the filters in place may be met with reprisals so tread lightly
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I've already shared my views with the people who run the place and if they kick me out (I'm already banned from Rendo and Daz because I won't knuckle under to their crap) I'll go elsewhere for my stuff. This is exactly why vendors are moving to that other new brokerage. I've also found that many content artists will sell directly to customers who've become PO'ed with the brokerage.
I find it hilarious that their filter doesn't recognize *deleted*. Summoner is laughing his nickers off.
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Quote: Chocolate is a vendor here so some stuff is available here including Haru.
Not anymore. Haru was removed a while back due to child porn concerns
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