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#1 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:06:29 PM(UTC)
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I'm currently running an Nvidia 1080i with 8GB of RAM, 16GB of system RAM, with a quad core 3.4Ghz processor. I don't use CPU rendering, so my video card gets the most exercise when it comes to DAZ. I'm considering picking up one of the new 30 series cards from Nvidia, has anyone here taken that plunge? Was it substantially better than a 1080? When I upgraded from my last card, a 680GTX, the difference was pretty substantial when it came to render times, I'd like to see something like that with the new card. 


Any graphics card ballers want to weigh in?


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#2 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:38:50 PM(UTC)
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I don't have a 3000 series, but I did upgrade earlier this year from my workhorse 1080ti to a Titan RTX.


Like night and day. 24gb of Vram means no scene is too large for the card, but I have seen Daz choke trying to gather enough ram to transfer it to the card. I should say I have 64gb of system ram.


I don't think in the past 6+ months since I've gotten the Titan RTX I've ever had a render go over an hour even at its most complicated scene. Most basic scenes with a 4 subdivided character, set and props and lighting takes about 4-9 minutes to render.


To put it in perspective the 3090 is suppose to be even more powerful than the Titan RTX for a fraction of the price. So yes :) I think you will get a much more noticeable boost from the 3000 series. I would splurge for the 3090 or whatever has the most vram that you can afford. I went through 11gb of vram on that 1080ti faster than I thought.


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#3 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2020 9:01:44 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SnarltheWerewolf Go to Quoted Post


I don't have a 3000 series, but I did upgrade earlier this year from my workhorse 1080ti to a Titan RTX.


Like night and day. 24gb of Vram means no scene is too large for the card, but I have seen Daz choke trying to gather enough ram to transfer it to the card. I should say I have 64gb of system ram.


I don't think in the past 6+ months since I've gotten the Titan RTX I've ever had a render go over an hour even at its most complicated scene. Most basic scenes with a 4 subdivided character, set and props and lighting takes about 4-9 minutes to render.


To put it in perspective the 3090 is suppose to be even more powerful than the Titan RTX for a fraction of the price. So yes :) I think you will get a much more noticeable boost from the 3000 series. I would splurge for the 3090 or whatever has the most vram that you can afford. I went through 11gb of vram on that 1080ti faster than I thought.



I'd like the 3090, but man...$1500. The 3080 and 3070 are a lot less, but they have a lot less RAM, too. Massive chokes with subdivision and HD morphs are my biggest issues right now. SubD level one, cool. Level two, sometimes, cool. Others, it tells me to fuck off back to the couch and check in an hour or two. I might be able to pull the trigger on a 3090, we'll just have to see. Thanks!


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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2020 10:11:47 PM(UTC)
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There are two threads over on the DAZ forums Nvidia Ampere (2080 Ti, etc. replacements) and other rumors... (39 pages) and Daz Studio Iray - Rendering Hardware Benchmarking (12 pages) that have info on the RTX 3000 series cards.  Lots of good information in both threads.  The RTX 3000 series card tests start on page 11 of the Benchmarking thread but the RTX 3000 series cards are only supported in the latest DS Beta for now.  HTH


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matt  
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2020 11:41:04 PM(UTC)
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...but the RTX 3000 series cards are only supported in the latest DS Beta for now.  HTH



Good to know! I guess I'll wait a bit longer.


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#6 Posted : Friday, October 30, 2020 7:30:07 AM(UTC)
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Get as much memory as you can afford. If it's a matter of waiting an additional month to save the extra cash to go to the next level of memory, I would wait. More CUDA cores are better, but if you can't fit the scene into the card's memory, it's pointless.

While I wish I had known back in the early spring how cheap the 3090 was going to be compared to the Titan RTX, I still don't regret the purchase as the 24gb of vram has been way more liberating than I ever dreamed =)
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#7 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2020 3:51:49 AM(UTC)
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Is there any efficient way at all to know how much a given scene will take in Vram? GPUZ doesn't seem to be a really good solution, as it gives
a global view of the used Vram, nothing detailed, and one script, Iray Memory Assistant, seems to get mixed reviews.
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#8 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2020 5:49:22 PM(UTC)
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Only way I've ever been able to gauge it is via MSI Afterburner. When you're rendering it will show you how much vram is being used (as long as you can fit the scene in your card vram). If you have Iray preview turned on that will also eat up some vram too. So take what the vram usage was before you hit render, then subtract that from how much total is being used to get an idea of how big the scene is.

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I'll give it a go. Thanks Snarl :)
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#10 Posted : Saturday, November 7, 2020 10:30:35 PM(UTC)
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The 30 series cards seem to be power hogs, so make sure your PSU is up to it when you do pull the trigger.


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Just a heads up.  DAZ Studio has just been updated to 4.14.0.8 and includes support for Ampere GPU's.  Please be aware that this release REQUIRES NVIDIA Driver 451.48 or newer and Nvidia recommends using the Studio drive for use with DS.  Time to buy an Ampere card.


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#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 10, 2020 11:37:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: billyben Go to Quoted Post


Just a heads up.  DAZ Studio has just been updated to 4.14.0.8 and includes support for Ampere GPU's.  Please be aware that this release REQUIRES NVIDIA Driver 451.48 or newer and Nvidia recommends using the Studio drive for use with DS.  Time to buy an Ampere card.



I'm not familiar with 'Ampere'. Is that what the 30 series cards are called? Nvidia just informed me that they have new drivers out, but I haven't installed them yet. What's the Studio drive?


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#13 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:48:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: matt Go to Quoted Post


Originally Posted by: billyben Go to Quoted Post


Just a heads up.  DAZ Studio has just been updated to 4.14.0.8 and includes support for Ampere GPU's.  Please be aware that this release REQUIRES NVIDIA Driver 451.48 or newer and Nvidia recommends using the Studio drive for use with DS.  Time to buy an Ampere card.



I'm not familiar with 'Ampere'. Is that what the 30 series cards are called? Nvidia just informed me that they have new drivers out, but I haven't installed them yet. What's the Studio drive?



Matt,


Ampere is the name for the RTX 3000 series GPU chip architecture, just like Turing is for the RTX 2000 series cards.  Nvidia has two drivers for GeForce cards, the latest Game Ready Driver and a slightly less aggressive "Studio" driver.  The Studio driver is usually the previous Game Ready driver with some additional stability testing and usually does not have the latest, greatest, bleeding edge game fix updates which sometimes break other things.  You can download the Studio Driver from the GeForce Experience by clicking on Check for Updates and selecting the Studio Driver instead of the Game Ready Driver.  Current GeForce Game Ready driver is 457.30 dated 11/9/20 & the Studio driver is 456.71 dated 10/20/20.


 

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#14 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2020 7:56:48 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: billyben Go to Quoted Post


 


Matt,


Ampere is the name for the RTX 3000 series GPU chip architecture, just like Turing is for the RTX 2000 series cards.  Nvidia has two drivers for GeForce cards, the latest Game Ready Driver and a slightly less aggressive "Studio" driver.  The Studio driver is usually the previous Game Ready driver with some additional stability testing and usually does not have the latest, greatest, bleeding edge game fix updates which sometimes break other things.  You can download the Studio Driver from the GeForce Experience by clicking on Check for Updates and selecting the Studio Driver instead of the Game Ready Driver.  Current GeForce Game Ready driver is 457.30 dated 11/9/20 & the Studio driver is 456.71 dated 10/20/20.


 



Thanks for that. I'm running the latest game ready driver, I always have and I've never seen it cause anything that I could blame on it. 


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#15 Posted : Sunday, November 22, 2020 4:43:20 PM(UTC)
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In case you're still wondering, I just swapped out my two 1080ti's for a 3090. It renders scenes in around half the time the two 1080ti's did. I know a lot of people label the new cards as power hogs, but one 3090 with a current draw of 350w is better on current draw and case temps (1080's hitting 75C, 3090 titting 62C) than two 1080ti's at 250w each, but getting double the rendering speed.
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