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Teej2113  
#1 Posted : Sunday, February 18, 2024 12:54:49 PM(UTC)
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Although a lot of my work tends to be BDSM, because there is so much material to support that, I think one of the most erotic things is a slow striptease.


There are a lot of sets available with exposure or stylized "sexy" outfits but not as much in the way of removal of real-world clothing, either in a striptease, undress or changing clothes scenario. There are some good sets here for displacement or removal of clothes in couple situations, including school and office wear.


It's easy for someone with no ability at creating content to say, but what would be really good would be self-removal of multiple layers of clothing (outer and under wear). There's probably also scope for more couple / group straightforward removal of clothes from an unwilling participant, but that's catered for more by current exposure morphs.


Obvious targets would be uniforms - School, Cheerleader, Sports, Military, Police, Prison, etc. - but anything that might be worn in real life would be nice. From outfits worn by "innocent" characters, to stripper outfits and points between.


Maybe with talk of people buying less, it wouldn't be worthwhile, or it might be what inspires some people to buy more.


If anyone wants to point me to things I might have missed, that's fine. As I've said elsewhere, although I have G9 and G3 characters, my favorites are all G8


coolcool  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 19, 2024 5:13:20 AM(UTC)
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It would be nice to have shoe and sock removed as well one at a time one shoe on /one off and part way off ,one sock one one off as well and one part way  pulled down part way off , I can't seem to find any like that. each would need to be separate - I think


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#3 Posted : Wednesday, May 8, 2024 12:06:04 AM(UTC)
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I love striptease, much more than straight up sudden nudity. Unfortunately, making undress striptease morph turns out to be a lot more work than may appear at surface level, as I experienced when I was creating my "Scintillating School Outfit" for G9.


I did attempt an undress morph, but was unsatisfied as a creator myself, and I can only imagine customer satisfaction would be affected in a greater magnitude as they are a harsher critic than the creator themselves!


You can spend a lot of time in creating a really great sensual undress morph that has all the right folds and creases and looks just right. You're proud of your work, until you export it to daz and realise the following:


* Undress morph only looks great in the base pose that you used for creating it. The moment you change the pose, your carefully crafted folds deform and no longer look right. You spent an hour creating those sensually attractive undressing folds? Its gone/changed now, and the more time you spent on creating it, the more you dislike the deformed version since its "not right" and not how you made it.


* You change your character morph, add in big breasts and whatnot. Now with a new character shape, the undress doesn't look as good. It doesn't hug the new body shape in the right way. It doesn't look bad, mind you, but not as good as you originally created it for the base character. And NOBODY uses just the base G8F/G9. Your carefully crafted folds? They're in a different place now. You can somewhat fix this with corrective body shapes but you soon realise you can't make one for every body shape out there, and the moment a pose change is brought in, all that effort is gone down the drain. Because, again, who plans on using their sexy clothing morphs just in the base pose? Not even you as the creator would use a product in a single base pose.


* Your undress morph only looks good at 100% dial value. Dial values in between don't look right, or sometimes just look broken, as if you made a bad product. You can fix this with keyed ERC but now you need to make somewhere around 3 to 6 undress corrective morphs for the SAME single undress morph so it looks good in all dial positions. If you spent an hour creating the original undress morph, now you need to deal with 3 to 6 more versions of the same morph. Again, you can do this, you really can, until you realise that your morph doesn't look right in different poses with different body shapes. So if you're aiming at 3 poses where your morph looks bad and needs correction, and 6 body shapes minimum with a keyed ERC of 3 corrective morphs for 33%, 66% and 100% morph dials, you're looking at 3 x 6 x 3 = 54 corrective morphs just for one undress morph to look right. And even then it might not look right in all scenarios because you can't account for all poses and bodyshapes. You just went for the bare minimum.


* You have to realise all this is just for the undress morph, not the entire cloth. You need to work on more important corrective morphs for the entirety of the cloth itself, not just a mere morph for it!


* I think it might make more sense to just go with dForce. Its a pain to get right, but when it works, it works really well and, you're not here making 54 corrective morphs for another morph.

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Teej2113  
#4 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2024 3:49:55 PM(UTC)
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Safest way to do undressing seems to be to have a series of clothing morphs and matching body poses. This at least gives an undress or dress sequence.

I have stuff from a couple of artists over at another site that run a quite good sequence as well as a couple that do clothes removal sequence. Sometimes the dForce final adjustment required leaves a couple of problems but they can be hidden by creative angles.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2024 4:51:23 PM(UTC)
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There is a product called Bedgown for Victoria 8 that has many poses with undress and open robe positions that can be adapted to poses that are not proprietary and it works pretty well. check it out
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#6 Posted : Thursday, May 9, 2024 8:03:48 PM(UTC)
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I see, custom poses to go along with the undress morph is the way to go. I'll checkout some examples to see how others did it when I have the time - might help me out, and hey, I like striptease too lol.


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#7 Posted : Saturday, May 11, 2024 11:43:21 PM(UTC)
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@ bittermiasma:

I have a DAZ Original product that goes this route - but for me it's neither convincing nor satisfying (too many overlapping morphs and awkward customisation to the pose).

So I ‘invented’ another way for myself: the ‘Slipables’. You can't do everything with them and using dForce limits the mesh (no applications or details) ... but you can create a few nice scenes :)

I have a free project elsewhere ("Psr Test Skirt"). *deleted*

Before you spend money on products that (in my opinion) are not really convincing, you should take a look at this (my) approach. As written: costs nothing. :)

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