Renderotica

Originally Posted by: billyben

Well DAZ is finally selling their gens, such as they are separately from the bundles now.  However, if you buy the anatomical elements they do nto come with any materials.  I am hoping someone out there is enterprising enough to create male and female materials maps for the 4 base male and female G9 skins released at the G9 launch.  Or maybe a product similar to Texture Wizard for G9 DAZ gens.

Thanks,

No surprise Daz has never been big on including the maps for genitals, it is left up to the Vendors as to whether Genital textures, or Anatomical Elements as Daz like to call them, get included. So far Victoria 9 is the only character with gen maps included.

Hopefully someone will come along and release a UV set for the Anatomical Elements that allows the Default G9 UVs to be used so that the Body maps can be used if no Gen maps are included.

Originally Posted by: BrotherHades

No surprise Daz has never been big on including the maps for genitals, it is left up to the Vendors as to whether Genital textures, or Anatomical Elements as Daz like to call them, get included. So far Victoria 9 is the only character with gen maps included.

So far Victoria 9 is the only character released.

They always include anatomical elements maps, except in very specific cases, like underaged characters for obvious reasons.

Originally Posted by: Katsuyaki

Given that DAZ wants to cultivate a family-friendly vibe, and given that they must know how their products are used, I wonder: do they actually hate it, or are they happy to look the other way as long as they make bank off of it? 

They just don't care. 

3D porn is just a small niche market. It doesn't dictate what we vendors decide to create, and it reflects on their store.

DAZ STUDIO USER SINCE 2006

Originally Posted by: Onesixthwarrior

So basically, the situation for right now is that even if we buy the "Character Essentials", G9 doesn't have gens that can be rendered, correct?

Only if you buy Victoria 9, she includes both make and female materials.

From what I've been told by multiple folks, the material files for the base gens are inside the texture folder where G9 base materials are at,  you've had them BEFORE even getting the character essentials product that had the gens in it (go figure lol)

I can not confirm this myself nor give an exact location because I've not yet downloaded the latest version of Daz or anything G9 / V9 related

Originally Posted by: BrotherHades

What I said is true, the included Genesis 9 Base Textures don't include Gen Maps, VYK Sydney for Genesis 9 no gen maps, CB Arceli HD for Genesis 9 no gen maps. Yes, there might not be many characters yet for Genesis 9, but so far the only one with Gen Maps is still Victoria 9. 

Actually it's not true. Arceli comes with anatomical elements materials. So far Sydney is the only one without them for that matter.

Originally Posted by: BrotherHades

As long as it is left up to the vendors, the majority of characters, will not have Gen Maps because as I have seen several vendors say over the years, they don't make nude art, they don't use the gens, so why should they add textures for them.

Because our job products are not imposed by what we use or not in our personal life renders.

I rarely render women, but still make female breasts and glutes products. I do not render female nudes, and definitely not female genitals, but I still included anatomical elements materials in a female character I made, and I would keep doing it.

In any case, the original comment was, "Daz has never been big on including the maps for genitals", which is a bit misleading, because they do include anatomical elements maps with their characters, except in very specific cases, like underage people for obvious reasons. They are even including male and female maps. Male and female nipples as well with Victoria 9.

DAZ STUDIO USER SINCE 2006

Originally Posted by: Hellboy

Originally Posted by: BrotherHades

What I said is true, the included Genesis 9 Base Textures don't include Gen Maps, VYK Sydney for Genesis 9 no gen maps, CB Arceli HD for Genesis 9 no gen maps. Yes, there might not be many characters yet for Genesis 9, but so far the only one with Gen Maps is still Victoria 9. 

Actually it's not true. Arceli comes with anatomical elements materials. So far Sydney is the only one without them for that matter.

Okay I was mistaken there, the way  CynderBlue has the sales type it is kind of hidden where it is usually listed last in the type, it is in the middle.

Originally Posted by: Hellboy

Originally Posted by: BrotherHades

As long as it is left up to the vendors, the majority of characters, will not have Gen Maps because as I have seen several vendors say over the years, they don't make nude art, they don't use the gens, so why should they add textures for them.

Because our job products are not imposed by what we use or not in our personal life renders.

I rarely render women, but still make female breasts and glutes products. I do not render female nudes, and definitely not female genitals, but I still included anatomical elements materials in a female character I made, and I would keep doing it.

Then in that case you seem to be a rarity. As I have seen too many vendors over the years refuse to make and include genital textures because, by their own admission, they see no point in them as they don't use the Anatomical Elements. And as Daz doesn't require them, to be accepted in the store, they are leaving it up to the vendors on whether or not they are included, but all of this is pointless as the main thing I was pointing out was the need/usefulness for a product that allows a user to use the Body texture UVs on the gens as a stop gap measure as a lot of vendors don't include the Daz Anatomical Elements textures, and not all of us are skilled at texturing enough to make our own to match every character, from every vendor that doesn't include them, which does at times include Daz themselves as they have never included the Anatomical Elements textures to match the base maps if nothing else, even if the numbered characters get the AE maps, as sometimes the base textures are nice, it would be nice if those that do use the Anatomical Elements had the choice to use the base maps with them without having to jump through hoops.  

There is now "Flexible Skin" in the DAZ store, which has gen maps for G9.
I would not buy it for the gen maps only, BTW.

Originally Posted by: Masterstroke

There is now "Flexible Skin" in the DAZ store, which has gen maps for G9.
I would not buy it for the gen maps only, BTW.

I would.  But it doesn't hurt that it also has nice skins to create Endorians, and Orion Slave Girls too.

Related, HumanXYStudio has released some basic open/close morphs for the G9 base female gens, and a new character with their usual hires textures as well. As expected from them, the morphs are cheap, the character is super expensive (although IMO their stuff is worth the price).

They are on *deleted*, search for Genesis 9 Female Anatomical Elements Morphs