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I have to say I'm not impressed with (the patron place). The first thing they want is all of of your social media contacts and then they hit you up for a credit card. After registering, they couldn't find you even though I was typing in your name correctly. And then when I get to your page the poll is about new products. I'm interested in Breastacular being able to morph the areolas and nipples to the bottom of the breast to give a realistic look to women with large breasts. You had responded to earlier requests saying it was in the offing, and now you are on to new projects.

https://www.renderotica.com/community/forums.aspx?g=posts&t=226559&cmsg=0&cmsn=#post442434

I type in (the patron place) and it gets turned into Renderotica. What gives? I've edited this three times, it won't take

Edited by user Thursday, July 23, 2020 1:39:33 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Ok, honestly (in I mean so), I get it. We all try hard (as in pun intended) to make a living by work for a living. On the ohter hand (another pun intended) we all know, most of us are doing this for a hobby (which I wouldn't have been able to without theadmirable work of your and and quite a few other creatative minds).
So, pardon me to ask the perhaps not  obvious, but is milking (pun hattrick) via patr.... the right way to go instead of building products people ask for here and would (logically) actually buy rather pushing to "fund" *potential* products to potentially (attention, pun overflow alert) cum?
Sorry if embarrasing, just 2 scents I had to drop in here as I was just going to suggest  some "enhancements" to Dicktator 3 & 8 I do both own but not utilse  to full extent (I think I busted the pun pun by now) because the, hm, what shall I call it, "dent" between glans and  foreskin  is way to pronaunced to makes using  Dickator Futalicious stand out as a unique.... tool, just  when I came across this post.

Edited by user Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:56:00 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Originally Posted by: sentionaut

 Most of Meipe's rewards are only useful if you own specific products already.

More like all of them. Everything that Meipe has released through *the site that shall not be named* has been an update or an addon for a preexisting product.

A lot of content consumers don't really realize that this shit doesn't just happen overnight. It takes a lot of work. I don't work for free, I doubt anyone reading this does. Neither does Meipe, and that's why the patron account exists. Every single little addon and additional morph we ask for probably takes several days to complete, if not longer. You want the shit? Pay for it. I don't know about the rest of you, but before the 'Rona made me reevaluate my fun money expenditures, I was dropping between $300 and $400 a MONTH between the big three sites. Every month. The meager fee of $10 that Meipe wants to gain early access or any access at all to little addons here and there is nothing. I spend that every day on alcohol. Meipe's a saint among creators, as far as I'm concerned. We ask for a thing, it gets built, more often than not. Support that! Patron may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's a platform that allows the creator to get something back for something that we want. I'll continue to give Meipe my $10 a month. 

I'll break this into chunks, to address each point. 

Originally Posted by: Kgpx

Ok I might have been appearing blowing the gasket a bit yesterday.

No worries, we've all done it. I lit up a vendor a few years back only to realize that the mistake was mine, and not theirs. I apologized, but I still feel like a dick about it. Live and learn. 

Originally Posted by: Kgpx

To clarify, I understand the reason for utilizing that portal in discussion to get increased support and income, potentially in need these strange days we are currently going through and again. So, I do not critisize Meipe for choosing this route. What I do not understand or embrace though, is the request to sign up with p... (I found out the poll seems actually public) instead on this platform the products are sold through and so the customers apparently have already an account with. Unless this content polled for will be exclusively distributed there.

Meipe could have certainly done a poll here. It's their prerogative to do it on whatever platform they choose, and as you said, the poll is public, so even if you're not subscribed to the Patron, it really doesn't matter in this case. So far, everything that Meipe has posted there has either been little niche morphs and texture packs for specific characters, or simply updates on what's going to be included in a future release, which have all been released here, such as the updates for CB and BT. The 'pay to play' methodology in the case of updates just means that if you subscribe, you might get them sooner than they are released here. 

Originally Posted by: Kgpx

However, and that is my point, usually, with other artists, depending on the plan you can access ALL there content there. Now, including these "host" products on the alternative portal should not be feasible due to this platforms policy here, which would make a subscription (what it basically boils down to) much more reasonable but in this case renders the unlucky double edged situation "Buy the core here, pay for maintenance plan there"

You're not 'paying for maintenance' any more than you would be here with a paid update. Most of Meipe's updates have been free here, anyway, such as the bump from Futalicious 3.0 to 3.2. Meipe has only released their products here, either as a free update or a paid add-on. Meipe's primary content can all be had here. As I mentioned, the morphs and textures that have been posted for download at Patron have all been little niche things, such as the blow-up morph for GP or texture add-ons for a single character, which in all likelihood will be included in any future updates of the pertinent product. They might be a free upgrade here, they might be a paid add-on. It really depends on what it is.

Originally Posted by: Kgpx

If it it is just additions you may not get here but just there, fine. It gets hairy though when it comes to that critical fixes or updates cannot be made available through the channel the original product was purchased due to colliding with the terms and conditions or this site.

Regarding your second point, since I've already addressed the first, critical fixes and updates have always been posted here, either as a free update through the store or as a dropbox download that Meipe posts themselves. 

Originally Posted by: Kgpx

I think it's only fair having expressed my considerations in this very thread of the creator as it should have a major impact on my future purchase decisions of her/his/their products. And as it stands I am not completely alone in that.

Meipe supports their products. They always have, and that's why I will never hesitate to buy something that I want. Critical fixes or failures that managed to make it past beta testing always get posted here. The Patron is only for singular textures and morphs that some have requested, and I don't blame Meipe one bit for adopting a subscription format for those things. As I mentioned in my previous post, this shit takes time. I don't have the skill set to create these things myself, and I'm not about to learn a new piece of software to do it. I will gladly pay $10 a month to have access to them. I spent more than that on my lunch today, and I'll spend more than that on it tomorrow. I will happily pay a content creator for their time, especially one like Meipe that listens, and then builds, even when the appeal may be limited. That kind of customer care is worth twice as much. 

Originally Posted by: ntngear

Shame that geografted foreskin wasn't on the list, as I would've voted for that one first. But collidable testicles does sound interesting.

Sorry I forgot about it, and about Zeppelin's Nipple... I Included the latest requests as they were fresh in my mind in  this hot summer ;)

Collidable testicles are second in the poll just now, just after collidable female butts...

BTW, I asked for a Renderotica forum change, with customizable forum sub-categories, but it's too complex as they would have to modify the site architecture. Problem is content/fixes I release at renderotica quickly get lost and can't be organized. So I hat to move at the site that must not be named.

There everything is tagged and can easily be found. As matt said, all content will sooner or later be included in free updates at Renderotica, so I don't want anyone feel 'pushed' to open a subscription. If you have ideas or requests for updates, Renderotica's forums are fine for me, no need to subscribe.

Just consider that each full update means to re-test everything both for me and the Renderotica staff. So I can't update 'live' for every fix/improvement I make, and I rather share it earlier at the site that must not be named.

Zeppelin: The site that must not be named is censoring adult content by not easily indexing X-rated pages. Kind of  dark web.

Edit by Moderator. No links offsite to any membership or retail sites.

Edited by user Tuesday, August 11, 2020 1:05:26 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Hi Meipe,

I'll use this topic to ask you about the request I made a few months ago ( https://www.renderotica....&t=235300#post460893 ), where I asked for a Golden Palace/Diktator combination (so, like a seamless fusion of the two grafts where the Diktator part would be starting from the clitoris area of the Golden Palace).  I scrolled through your Pat***n page to check it out but I couldn't find any topic about this.  Is it still on (one of) your to-do list(s)?

Anyway, thanks for your time 👍

Originally Posted by: Meipe

Originally Posted by: guidebo

I'll use this topic to ask you about the request I made a few months ago ( https://www.renderotica....&t=235300#post460893 ), where I asked for a Golden Palace/Diktator combination

 

Did you check my "Full Monty" graft?

Yes I did (as I mentioned in my previous request which is linked in my first post in this topic), and as I mentioned before, I really like the look of it, but I'm looking for a version without testicles.  The thing that annoys me a bit with the original Futalicious graft with Roasty add-on is that the vagina part (labia majora) looks a bit too bulgy and doesn't look "natural" enough, it still looks a bit too much as an add-on.

I'm sorry if I come over as rude or disrespectful, that's really not my intention.  I really appreciate and am thankful you take the time to look into these requests.

Cheers.