Renderotica

do you really think DMCA protection will help?

Femur from TGComics is fighting since years against these sites which are stealing premium comics from TGComics, with no success, because these sites are hosted in countries which don't care about DMCA or any copyright.

Originally Posted by: shadoman

The tech should be out there by now.

The "DriveThru" sites (comics, games, RPGs) sell by .PDF - these aren't locked but do have watermarks and hidden marks in the document.  This is done by software PER sale.  Yes, they handle other than .pdf - some things have said files and seperate images (say the map that comes as an insert if it was a physical RPG adventure)  Thus if some item they sell ends up on a fileshare site they can re-download it (having the copyright to do so as does the seller) and check out the hidden tags to see who bought it.  Granted someone might get hacked or lose a computer/flash drive somewhere - but not every single issue including new ones regularly even after the 'theft'.

If Renderotica's distributor's don't have this they should talk to them...  I'm sure they'd give an IT guy tips/pointers how to do it or maybe help directly if it's a legit digital store needing help.  Comics of course would be easy to tag, pure image digital files.  Since for "Toys" we have things in Poser/Daz format a script could easily look for expected files like Jpeg, Tiff, bmp  and easily insert a code into it.  (out of a range of millions of colors easy to say stretch a serial # ABC123548 ... big and 'write' it in slight variants of color 1/1000 hue shift that bounces around - or just a few dozen binary "Dots" spaced right in the right way (again in slight hue shift) the same way a desktop printer does find makers of Kiddie P... and Counterfeit...(oh, not tracing radicals like Communist countries did)  People that "hack" focus on breaking copyright protection/DRM stuff - but rarely anything beyond that.  Major movies when they 'negotiate' with advertisers go "The hackers who'll steal this film and show it in living rooms and downtown Calcutta won't remove your soda pop's label from the background..."  No way is a hacker going to spend weeks looking for if/where a bunch of dots hidden in jpegs are - might even be able to interpret them from images rendered with it depending on situation even if invisible to the eye...  Like holding up a sheet from your printer with a magniffying glass as someone did checking for perfection on their laserjet printer and finding the same dot pattern here and there years ago...

Now, yes someone could buy from a stolen credit card over the internet from "Former Glorious People's Republik of Krokodil" and post them on "Friendly Free Server of Digital Goods" - which is what they do now.  However, buying with a stolen credit card alone is a felony, not petty theft regardless of the issue of how many 'sales' putting something on a grungy buggy site full of viruses is.  Something a lawyer should be raving police and LEOs to go after.  Tracers in the files would provide a good trail to trace and confirm guilt when a suspect was caught.

Edited by user Wednesday, June 3, 2020 4:34:25 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

This list is very nice to have and to what was said  they will in most cases comply within 24-48 hours, 

However.  When these sites do comply and and shitfaces that click on the link to get the down upload site and see the 404 error message, they complain to the pirates Moderators and all they have to do is change some names in the files and repost. 

One place did that t me by simply removing my pen name and withing a week a file that as shadoman's xtra credit was now simply extra credit.. and you have to start the process all over again.

So be vigelent and go back on occasion and check from time to time.. 

As to the russian site that does not comply to DCMA's  Fansoradox must have taken them to court inside Russia and won their case as all of their 400 comics are now gone..  

Regards  Shadoman

Tutorial for removing pirated links

If you are a seller and your products are being inserted by these motherfuckers on pirate sites, follow the steps below:

1) Create an account at https://www.dmca.com  (its free, your cheapskate!!)
2) Next, create a protection seal https://www.dmca.com/Protection/ManualAdd.aspx
3) After, copy and do not miss the urls (because you will send them to the hosting services)
4) Send an email with the following text to the server where your pirated files are:

1 - I (Insert your real name), affirm to anyone of interest that the material hosted by INSERT THE HOST NAME in the link provided, DOES NOT have rights or authorization from me, that I am the creator of the products / models, to be distributed in free and illegal.
2- I declare that all information is accurate and truthful, under penalty of perjury. And, being the creator of the work / model, I have all the rights under it, so I state that I DO NOT authorize the distribution.

Info: INSERT YOUR NAME
INSERT YOUR SITE / PAGE (if you have it)
Phone INSERT YOUR PHONE
Adress: INSERT YOUR ADRESS AND ZIP CODE

I again affirm that the link below contains material distributed illegally, WITHOUT MY authorization. Thus, I request the immediate removal of the links:

HERE YOU PUT THE PIRATE LINKS (attention, do not put the link of the pirate motherfucker page, insert the HOST link, megaupload, rapidshare, mediafire, etc ...

My original product links:
HERE YOU PUT YOUR ORIGINAL PRODUCTS LINKS, cgtrader, rendererotica, daz, etc ...
And insert also the DMCA Links!!!!

5) Pick on the list the email of server to send it
[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

Turbobit (only by this contact page) https://help-turbobit-ne...en-us/conversation/new/8

If hosted on google drive, you will must open a formal request (click on the 3 point in top right side of the screen to report abuse) and put the request dates in fields, will appear a page similar like this:
https://www.google.com/w...d=2&complaint_type=1
(or translate this one for your language)

I suggest that you are not sloppy, and think that it’s over... I suggest that you keep monitoring the pirate sites every 1 or 2 days, as the suckers usually repost new links, but in any case it’s up to you, after all it’s up to you your work, mine I monitor every day!
Do not be fooled by the help of the owners of the sale sites, as they do nothing about it! Do yourself your job, unless you don’t care thieves to earn money at the expense of your work, and your sales decrease

never mind I will contact owners and copyright holders of Stan Lee's (Mick) estate  and the film studio that owns copyright for Smeagol (Gollum) from *deleted* and see if I buy them it ok to use for NFT. wish me luck !  

Edited by user Sunday, January 23, 2022 6:24:52 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Originally Posted by: dandan

if I buy stuff here can I use it to make NFT ?

Disclaimer: "I AM NOT A LAWYER AND THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE"

Generally speaking products here are for use as components in derivative 2D images. The 2D images (or video series of images) YOU create can be used Commercially in any way.

The products CAN NOT be used in 3D works (ie: video games, 3D Model prints, secondlife, or interactive media like metaverse VR chat) whereas the mesh, product, or product components are shareable or stealable.

Some artist may release extended licenses for use cases like videogames but may also require that meshes are downgraded, shaders are baked in a certain way, and usually the product is also protected against 3rd party theft with encryption measures. 

Edited by user Tuesday, January 25, 2022 2:01:26 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

They have not got back to me yet and I don't think I understand correctly if I make 2d render I can't make into NFT unless I have copyright ? I not selling as 3d product just 2d image .  Does Romfx not have the copyright to the products ? very confused how it is working dmca copyrights grrr.

Edited by user Tuesday, January 25, 2022 12:07:29 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Originally Posted by: dandan

They have not got back to me yet and I don't think I understand correctly if I make 2d render I can't make into NFT unless I have copyright ? I not selling as 3d product just 2d image .  Does Romfx not have the copyright to the products ? very confused how it is working dmca copyrights grrr.

The problem isn't copyright, as copyright is set to cover a particular work, it says the artist of said work has rights to determine how and when their work can be used or under what circumstances the work is allowed to be copied. So in using a character like Mick in a render you will have copyright to the render, however with Mick being a digital clone it does bring with it some limitations due to likeness issues and Rights of Publicity (Basically stating a person has say over how and where their image or likeness is used) So while you own copyright to your render, Stan Lee or his Estate have say in how his image/likeness is used. This is the same type of situation with photography. Where the photographer owns copyright of the image, but due to publicity rights of the subject, may be limited in how the photographer or photographers assignees may use the images. This is why most photographers use Model Releases as they act as a release/permission for the photographer or the photographer's assignees to use the images.

So while you are within rights to use the Mick character in a Render, commercializing said render could result in a suit dealing with Publicity Rights violations, usually in the form of a defamation suit if the actor or their assignees see the work as Defaming the Actor's name.