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s_j_gregory  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2021 4:50:35 PM(UTC)
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I have a duplicate formula error/warning when opening a scene that includes G8F and NGV8.  I don't know that I have installed anything new recently but I also don't recall seeing this previously.    The owner and output are new_gens_V8_1840 and the input looks like a Zev0 morph.


Anyways, is anyone else seeing this.  I have read a quite old post elsewhere about changing the colour of a slider in order to resave (update) the offending morph.  i worry that this may somehow negatively impact the prop if it is following a morph in the character - clearly I don't understand how this works but I am curious if this simple approach would work here to avoid this during opening of saved files.


Any assistance appreciated.   


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#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 13, 2021 4:44:28 AM(UTC)
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Since I have had this happen, the first question is: Do you have more than 1 hard drive installed, and if so do you have 2 libraries set up?

If so, look for duplicate products that contain a character that has a morph with it. Once you find it, delete one of those including: x\data\Daz 3D\Genesis 8\Female\Morphs\(creator's file folder name); you should also delete the associated file in data too (x\data\(creator's file folder name), and any texture file folders.

Once those are deleted, reopen your character to see if you get the same error (you may have more than 1 duplicate value); if you don't then resave your character.
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3feetwolf on 10/17/2021(UTC)
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:58:12 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the response but I am not sure we are on the same wave length yet.  I will try yo be more clear.  Here is what I see in the log:


2021-10-12 16:45:23.713 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7032): Duplicate formula found linking Gen Gap 1 & Alt Null Duel & Gen Gap 1 Alternative in F:/SSD_11_05_2019/Users/Public/Documents/HDD My DAZ 3D Library/Scenes/Temp 21_10_12.duf.
2021-10-12 16:45:23.713 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7033):     owner: new_gens_V8_1840
2021-10-12 16:45:23.713 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7034):     output: new_gens_V8_1840:/Scenes/Temp%2021_10_12.duf#Gen%20Gap%201%20%26%20Alt%20Null?value
2021-10-12 16:45:23.714 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7035):     input: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Gen%20Gap/Gen%20Gap%201%20Alternative.dsf#Gen%20Gap%201%20Alternative?value
2021-10-12 16:45:23.754 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7032): Duplicate formula found linking Gen Gap 1 & 2 Null Duel & Gen Gap 2 in F:/SSD_11_05_2019/Users/Public/Documents/HDD My DAZ 3D Library/Scenes/Temp 21_10_12.duf.
2021-10-12 16:45:23.754 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7033):     owner: new_gens_V8_1840
2021-10-12 16:45:23.754 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7034):     output: new_gens_V8_1840:/Scenes/Temp%2021_10_12.duf#Gen%20Gap%201%20%26%202%20Null?value
2021-10-12 16:45:23.754 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7035):     input: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Gen%20Gap/Gen%20Gap%202.dsf#Hip%20Gap%202?value


I have a lot of directories, a lot of Meipe, Zev0 and 3feetwolf items (with multiple versions editions etc..) and I wonder if there is a conflict or something.  Does the Duplicate Formula error indicate two of the same morph somewhere in the directory (ssss) or is it that there is something assigning a value to the morph from more than one place (ie the character and the prop).  Here is perhaps where you are directing me: there is perhaps a morph in the G8F duplicating a morph in NGV8 (two in fact and they are from the Zev0 Gap Gen product)?  Maybe?  


Can you confirm what  you are suggesting and be a bit more detailed in what to do.  Thanks again.


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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:25:07 PM(UTC)
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A few more points.


This may be a blinding glimpse of the obvious for those able to read the log file; but, i can confirm the issue is new to me, is contained within NGV8, and stems from the Zev0 Gen Gap product and associated morphs.  This product adds morphs to G8F, and a range of genital props.  I cannot as yet confirm if the error occurs with all characters and props but can confirm it occurs with default G8F and NGV8.  I am not yet certain how to resolve the issue as there is a lot (a lot) going on behind the scenes with these morphs.  


Initially I had two errors and I resolved one using a technique reported here:  https://www.daz3d.com/fo...hank-you-bejaymac.  I am not entirely sure why this worked in one instance or why it would not work for the second.


Perhaps, if someone knows how to share this with Zev0, there might be a more informed discussion.


More food for thought. 


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#5 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2021 9:16:32 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the response but I am not sure we are on the same wave length yet.  I will try yo be more clear.  Here is what I see in the log:


2021-10-12 16:45:23.713 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7032): Duplicate formula found linking Gen Gap 1 & Alt Null Duel & Gen Gap 1 Alternative in F:/SSD_11_05_2019/Users/Public/Documents/HDD My DAZ 3D Library/Scenes/Temp 21_10_12.duf.
2021-10-12 16:45:23.713 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7033):     owner: new_gens_V8_1840
2021-10-12 16:45:23.713 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7034):     output: new_gens_V8_1840:/Scenes/Temp%2021_10_12.duf#Gen%20Gap%201%20%26%20Alt%20Null?value
2021-10-12 16:45:23.714 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7035):     input: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Gen%20Gap/Gen%20Gap%201%20Alternative.dsf#Gen%20Gap%201%20Alternative?value
2021-10-12 16:45:23.754 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7032): Duplicate formula found linking Gen Gap 1 & 2 Null Duel & Gen Gap 2 in F:/SSD_11_05_2019/Users/Public/Documents/HDD My DAZ 3D Library/Scenes/Temp 21_10_12.duf.
2021-10-12 16:45:23.754 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7033):     owner: new_gens_V8_1840
2021-10-12 16:45:23.754 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7034):     output: new_gens_V8_1840:/Scenes/Temp%2021_10_12.duf#Gen%20Gap%201%20%26%202%20Null?value
2021-10-12 16:45:23.754 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7035):     input: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Gen%20Gap/Gen%20Gap%202.dsf#Hip%20Gap%202?value


I have a lot of directories, a lot of Meipe, Zev0 and 3feetwolf items (with multiple versions editions etc..) and I wonder if there is a conflict or something.  Does the Duplicate Formula error indicate two of the same morph somewhere in the directory (ssss) or is it that there is something assigning a value to the morph from more than one place (ie the character and the prop).  Here is perhaps where you are directing me: there is perhaps a morph in the G8F duplicating a morph in NGV8 (two in fact and they are from the Zev0 Gap Gen product)?  Maybe?  


Can you confirm what  you are suggesting and be a bit more detailed in what to do.  Thanks again.



By the looks of it, you have the same data files stored in 2 different data folders, so at some point, you downloaded this product twice and moved it to different directories.  To clear this error out (FOR WINDOWS ONLY):
1. Open 2 file windows at the same time, for example in my case I would open: C:\Users\Public\Documents\My DAZ 3D Library\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female\Morphs\Zev0 in one window AND D:\Users\(name)\Content for DAZ\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female\Morphs\Zev0 in a second window
2. Look for any folders in each directory that have the same name, such as Gap Gen.
3. Delete one of those folders
4. You will then need to go up a few folder levels and delete another file: (directory):\Users\Public\Documents\My DAZ 3D Library\data\Zev0\and the same file folder name
5. You can then delete the file from the People folder

IDEALLY, you should remove the duplicate folders out of the same directory, so if you remove one folder from a D:\ drive, you should remove all duplicates from that same directory. You don't have to, but it's good disk drive hygiene.
 


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#6 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2021 4:47:15 PM(UTC)
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Thanks again.  A few hours in and I cannot identify the issue. 


  • If I am looking for morphs with the same name, I can confirm that the Gen Gap product by Zev0 is full of duplicate named morphs/files?.  (The Genesis 3 version also uses much of the same names as the the Genesis 8 version.)  And the Genesis 8 version populates the data\DAZ3D\Genesis 8\Female\Morphs\Zev0 area and also the Meipex and 3feetwolf morph areas with files of the same name.  There are even folders with the family of morphs for different versions of the props.  I would suggest that this is intended so that the morph applied to the character also works on the various props.
  • If I am looking specifically in  {Insert Various Drive Letters}:\Users\(name)\Content for DAZ\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female\Morphs\Zev0 for duplicates in more than one directory, for the life of me I cannot find any.

It is interesting though that I have further experimented and can confirm that this is occurring only with NGV8 and not with Futalicious or Golden Palace, both of which appear to have similarly duplicate files.


 


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#7 Posted : Sunday, October 17, 2021 5:52:32 AM(UTC)
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Hi,
Could you send this duf file, "F:/SSD_11_05_2019/Users/Public/Documents/HDD My DAZ 3D Library/Scenes/Temp 21_10_12.duf" to me?
I have not encountered this problem before, so I can only try to see if I can find the cause of the problem.
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#8 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2021 7:47:53 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for this and I certainly appreciate it and will. I am away from my pc for a while but will send it to you. Do I just attach it here or do I send it to your account. Thanks again.
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#9 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2021 9:08:48 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for this and I certainly appreciate it and will. I am away from my pc for a while but will send it to you. Do I just attach it here or do I send it to your account. Thanks again.


Please email me([email protected]). 


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