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shadoman  
#41 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2019 6:40:09 PM(UTC)
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The Late Doc Legume had sent many DCMA's to ImageFAP and other sites that abuse our copyright,  Most will remove the images withing 24-72 hours if the correct form is issued.  BUT  they do nothing to the offending parties  even if they are repeat offenders. They could easily ban them by stating they posted renderotica art  that is listed in their own TOS but they do not.   That is where the real problem lies.


But if we find out who the posters sre and Ban their UR:s from outr site it will be a step in the right direction.


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#42 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2019 7:34:08 PM(UTC)
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ImageFap support just contacted me
to confirm my images have been
removed from Maartje's gallery.

Similar requests can be sent to them in the following format :

1. Identify yourself as either:
a: The owner of a copyrighted work(s), or
b: A person authorized to act on behalf of the
    owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

2. State your contact information, including your real name,
    street address, telephone number, and email address.

3. Identify the particular ORIGINAL SOURCE website URL/s or DVD/s
    of copyrighted work that you believe is being infringed,
    (that's your links, not Imagefap's), or if a large number of works are
    appearing at a single website, a representative list of the works.

4. Identify by its URL(s) the material on Imagefap that you claim
    is infringing your copyrighted work, to which you are requesting
    that Imagefap disable access over the World Wide Web.

5. State that you have a good faith belief that use of the
    material in the manner complained of is not authorized by
    the copyright owner, its agents, or the law.

6. State that the information in the notice is accurate,
    under penalty of perjury.

7. Please also note that under applicable law, 17 U.S.C. 512 (f),
    any person who knowingly, materially misrepresents that material
    or activity is infringing may be subject to liability.

8. If you have multiple links put them in a list in one email,
    sending multiple notices in a short period of time may result
    in them being blocked by the system as spam/abuse.

9. Email the notice to 
    [email protected]
    do not send attachments.

Shadoman, 
if you had not mentioned Maarjte in this thread three years ago, 
I would have not have found it while looking for her Renderotica account.


Thank you.
 

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#43 Posted : Sunday, April 28, 2019 9:35:32 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: drafter69 Go to Quoted Post

Who is the copyright holder? The artist or Renderotica?

I know this is a complex issue as every country seems to have it's own rules.
Can it be enforced against someone who is not making any money showing someone else's property?


Unless copyright is turned over to another party the Artist holds copyright from the moment the work is fixed to a tangible form. For photography it means the moment the shutter clicks, for 3D Render Artists it would be when the scene is finished rendering. 


Exceptions being work created under a Work for Hire basis, or contract work if the contract explicitly states that the company owns all copyrights, trademarks, etc. (Though with contracted works there have been cases brought before the courts with rulings on both sides of the issue so it is a bit of a mess)


 


Under the Berne Convention all signatory countries recognize copyrights held by the citizens of all other parties to the convention. So basically copyright laws are seen as valid in 177 countries. The issue is those handful of Nations that are not Berne Signatories or those individuals that just flat out ignore copyright laws. A lot of the art thieves and pirates learn quickly which countries act as safe harbors and will host their sites within those countries. And if the country is not a Berne Signatory then they have no obligation to recognize the copyrights of others.


 


Most countries that have copyright laws have agreed that it does not require monetary gain for it to be considered infringement. Simply posting works of which you are not the copyright holder, is an infringement.   


 


The major problem is legally it is up to the artist to defend their copyrights. Since a lot of artists use their time working on new art, it limits time we can send out DMCA Takedown notices if needed. Also if the sites hosting the infringement ignores the takedown notice, or are hosted in a safe harbor country. Then the only options are to bring a court case (which a lot of artists don't really have the money to do) or ignore the infringement.


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brookes  
#44 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2019 5:09:49 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Darkseal Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: SkylineStudio4 Go to Quoted Post
Trying to fight piracy is stupid anyway... I also don't care if people pirate my stuff, you can make way more money working an actual job versus selling Digital product online. ...

For some people, like myself, this IS an "actual" job. I don't want to rant or cry here but times are tough. I can't find work in my area and I am in a major metropolitan area. Sure you can find 2 part time 15/hr a week minimum wage job, but that doesn't pay the mortgage or keep the internet going to upload more content...
Supporting content creators with making purchases keeps the content coming. Stop the income and the content will stop. It is very simple.
Kudos to DOC, he's helped me more than a few times. And, I thank god that Renderotica cares enough to have someone like him fighting the good fight, for those who care and survive on the income that our content generates.nerd


I'm in awe of the gifted people who do this free lance and make a living at it.  I lucked into a graphics position with the government and stayed there 42 years doing a variety of jobs.  The damn immature punks and kids who have no experience surviving in the real world need to have their hands cut off (I worked in Dubai in an exchange position helping them set up their own graphics services.  They have NO problems with theft or piracy there).   I can't believe some of the crap these stupid kids believe; just look at some of the comments here.  If it wasn't for folks like Darkseal, we'd have no toys to play with.


 


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#45 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2019 1:46:43 PM(UTC)
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Doc, rest his soul, has helped many within the Renderotica community and he will be missed.


As mentioned above, many countries abide by the rules of copyright,  but some ignore them. Especially some sites in Russia.  For me to fight for one of my comics would mean hiring a lawyer a in that country to work on my behalf and they may be just as shady as the website that is pirating the art.


All I can say is for comic artist to place their "pen name" on every page, and every so often place a disclaimer such as "posting any or part of this comic without express permission is forbidden"


Some first will crop a cover and forgo posting the disclaimer pages, but if every ten pages has some sort of disclaimer posted where cropping hurts the image, will make it harder for pirates to display.


Some of my art is still out there,  a few fragments or chapters of one story, or maybe a short story, But a few full comics exist out there on the web and I figure the work involved to get it removed is futile because these sites are Russian owned. Not to mention I did not follow the practices O mentioned above back then.


However, with that said.  Recent publications of mine are harder to find at free sites as I go after them or report them to Renderotica as they have exclusive rights to this site in regards to all things BDSM related.


My Transgender Art is posted elsewhere with the exception of 2 stories I share at both sites,


Be mindful enough to search for your items with a casual search.. and make it harder for pirates to steal and crop your work. Please report products and art you know are exclusive to Renderotica.


Regards   Shado


 


 


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#46 Posted : Monday, April 29, 2019 2:18:21 PM(UTC)
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Reading all the posts here it becomes obvious that this is not a simple issue and I suspect that as time passes it will get even more complex. Artist rights, renderotica rights... Who has to defend those rights... Interesting but I suspect for most people it is too time consuming as well as expensive.
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#47 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2019 12:40:37 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: drafter69 Go to Quoted Post
Reading all the posts here it becomes obvious that this is not a simple issue and I suspect that as time passes it will get even more complex. Artist rights, renderotica rights... Who has to defend those rights... Interesting but I suspect for most people it is too time consuming as well as expensive.


 


fir certain sites that abide to Copyright DCMA's  it only take a few minutes of ones time.  especially if you have template already made. Then it's just a matter of copy and past the offending links and re-date the template and send it off.


what gets me is that sometimes I get a reply asking if I really want my work removed..  They say the poster is paying tribute to my art by posting it.


A tribute is one or two pages with links pointing to where a person can buy the comic, Not posting it for free.  I then say get it off the site and they do.


Another thing you can do for hardliners is that if they have some sort of download program to grab a whole PDF comic,  You can go after those sites so that if a site does not comply and someone try;s to use the download service they get a 404 error page.


I found one site that would download a comic onto a DVD and ship the DVD to you. and all you had to do was send the payment to their PAY PAL account.   I sent PAP PAL a copy of the sites purchase page and withing hours the site had no way to collect money and it's quite possible PAY PAL held onto their funds for violation of their TOS in regards to Porn


Little victories here and they can make you think you are gaining the upper hand but you need to keep a watchful eye and so I check on a few sites once or twice a week, Just in case.  I also look out for certain artist I know and if I see it,  I give them a nootice or In renderotica case  I copy the link and send it off to [email protected]


Thing is there are so many comic artist posting at renderotica and it's hard to know who who's especially when I do not see any renderotica Logo


Regards   Shadoman


 


 


 


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#48 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2019 6:00:03 AM(UTC)
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If you're having a problem with Russian sites (and who isn't), I suggest you read this site daily,
https://torrentfreak.com/
There's an article on Chinese government takedowns today (Apr 30th, 2019) and I've seen similar
articles about the Russians. It should be possible to find the particular agency responsible for copyrights and with the help of google translate,
send a nice request to take them down.
shadoman  
#49 Posted : Tuesday, April 30, 2019 9:55:26 PM(UTC)
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The site I am referring to in Russia boldly claims they will not honor any DCMA's 


They do not use download sites,  you can download hundreds of comics from places like DO FANTASY, and Our Renderotica.  As long as you are willing to open and copy each and every page one by one in JPG format.


If you want to become a Premium Member all you have to do is buy a comic and submit it to them, then you get to download comics in bulk via PDF format.


This site is huge and their servers are in Russia so you cannot attack them 


Doc had some success against them but not enough to stop them hosting many Renderotica Comics


 


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brookes  
#50 Posted : Friday, May 3, 2019 5:10:15 AM(UTC)
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Here's something interesting that will allow individual artists to take it upon themselves without hiring lawyers,
https://torrentfreak.com...t-troll-fighters-190502/
Details are thin right now but it looks like it will a make it feasible for the small guys and girls to go after the selfish and immature file sharing punks on their own, at least in the US. With none of the brokers willing to do anything, this is welcome news.
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#51 Posted : Friday, May 3, 2019 6:26:01 PM(UTC)
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Brookes


 


Thanks for the link    It's ironic that as this thread gets new life,  someone posted some of my work at A site I monitor  so I had to dig up my old DCMA template and copy and past the links and send it off to the host site.. 


They have renderotica on their do not submit art by   but somehow  my name got removed.. The site has been clean for almost a year but if I do not nip it in the bud if will begin to crop up elsewhere..  It's monlu one comic and I nelieve a short story at that but still   my name is on the damn thing


On the plus side this place honors DCMA's it just takes 24-72 hours


 


Regards  Shadoman


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