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brookes  
#1 Posted : Saturday, June 4, 2016 4:29:50 PM(UTC)
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As a reformed pirate, I keep a close watch on the sites out of curiosities sake. I almost never see Render-perverted-sick & twisted-fun-stuff-otica items posted due to the fine work done by the Doc (or should it just be 'Doc'?). While the torrent kiddies post almost everything from Daz and Render-sure-steal-our-stuff-we-don't-care-osity as soon as it's released, rarely do items from here show up. Over the past few days I've noticed a marked drop in the appearance of new content. The main torrent site has had nothing new in three days and boy, are those kids ever putting up a fuss. They seem to think that they're entitled to rip stuff off from soccer Moms and retired old farts who have the drive, passion, and talent to make stuff for them. It's great fun to watch and I hope it continues.

I've been badgering the other sites for years to get off their collective butts and do something. Hopefully it's bearing fruit.
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#2 Posted : Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:37:15 PM(UTC)
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Having been connected with the staff, I for one can say DOC IS a game changer when it comes to getting items found in our store removed.
If the sites refuses to remove items, he goes after the download sites, and at times he goes after the hosting websites.

Having come across these very sites I have contacted Doc and also sent messages to*deleted*and DAZ, but it is always our stuff that get removed the quickest.
Not sure if the other sites just sit on their buts or do not go further in their attempts to get their copyright items removed. So Yes Doc Makes a big difference here

I do not what kind of mindset this younger generation operates on, they think that they should not have to pay for anything and once it's on the internet, it should be considered a free item.
They use excuses like.. we are posting your stuff in tribute to your great work and you should be proud that we are getting the word out.. Then they gripe when the well begins to dry up, but will they buy what they truly desire the most.. No on your life..

So your report is good news and I hope it continues

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brookes  
#3 Posted : Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:36:04 AM(UTC)
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Daz3D and *deleted* have never done a thing since a search on the main torrent site always resulted in hundreds of items available. Much of it is still there but there's no new stuff which has gotten them all wound up.

I'm not so sure that pirating is a generational habit. I know plenty of old folks (of which I'm one) who think nothing of downloading movies and TV shows. It seems that with my generation (boomers), folks are either oblivious to 'this newfangled internet thang' and do nothing with it, or, are as big on the technology and culture as the kids...maybe more so. I know that it was my generation that was first on the net in it's infancy and drove protocols like FTP and NNTP. I fondly remember scanning my massive collection of old porn and catalogues, then uploading the scans to various newsgroups. Every so often I'll see one of my scans posted in some vintage lingerie or porn forum. Kinda gratifying. I also made a religion out of downloading the music I grew up with (and some of the new stuff) from the usenet. I've run a seedbox seemingly forever and still use it to share my catalogue scan collection (all legit and above the board). So many of the folks I run across in my net travels are of similar vintage. I feel that the difference is in the attitude regarding downloading. Older folks know that it's illegal and generally feel guilty about it. The younger generation seem to feel entitled to freeload and get pissed when items are removed. They make a lot of vacuous comments about 'freedom' and 'censorship' but have no idea what they're talking about. Some of it is fueled by that imbecile Rick Falkvinge who lumps political and economic repression together with downloading stuff. He yacks about a copyright monopoly despite there not being any monopoly at all. Everyone who creates anything owns the rights to it. All people, artists or not, have their works, professional or amateur, protected by copyright laws. I think the guy is delusional.

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#4 Posted : Sunday, June 5, 2016 7:54:54 AM(UTC)
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People usually care about their own rights, and want to regulate everyone else's. Anarchists love to talk freedom and rights, but when it comes to banks or investment houses or such, those same anarchists usually want to limit their powers.

I'd call it selfish rather than individualist. There's no understanding of the greater society. Giving delusional people unlimited power is a recipe for excess. The marquis de Sade wrote extensively on this.

Yes, digital information needs to be free, and evil corporations benefit from money transactions over the internet, blah blah blah. I've heard this time and again from greedy selfish scumbags who think they are in the right for sticking it to the Man. Robin Hood and all of that.

I think people generally need better role models. Everyone else's greed is not proper except my own... what a backwards but predictable philosophy.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:17:44 AM(UTC)
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Well as I search to keep my own comics off the web, with the help of DOC who created some easy to use templates when the stuff that is out there was boosted from another site..

Anyway, I've come across some fantastic artist and I'm always amazed at how many illegal posting are made. We're talking about 50-100 submissions on a daily basis at each of the sites I frquent..
Yet if I see something that sparks my interest I make a note of the artist name, If it is not cropped out, and look to see if it is available for sale..

Recently I found one such artist work and purchased all four issues of his work with a 5th due in August..
The artist does post stuff at D-A but I wanted his work in a full PDF comic and got so much more in each issue I bought...Sketches Samples and Bonus Art..

This is how it should be done.

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JasmineJas  
#6 Posted : Thursday, June 9, 2016 10:38:59 AM(UTC)
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Power theft carries deadly risks. Many thieves pay for the power they steal with their lives. Electricity theft is not just dangerous for those who steal. If you are on the same power line as someone who steals electricity, you could pay the cost for their theft too.
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#7 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2016 9:47:43 AM(UTC)
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I think that most of the published comic artist who sell in our store are very protective of their copyrighted work. I think the same goes for a few gifted artist in the main gallery as sadly I find their work posted all the time.. Yet Premier art due to it's subscription option via Premier Advantage, manages to stay off the many Free site web pages..

As mentioned, if something cannot be had for free then forget it.. I think that is a good reason why one should take advantage of starting one of the Gallery Subscription options now being offered.
You can set a price based on what you think your art is worth, and maybe because someone will have to sign on for a subscription, will make your art easier to track should it be boosted.

Pirates will always take the cheapest route to acquire something and avoid if possible paying for something out of pocket.

I also notice that many artist fail to tag their art and by doing so you give the Pirates an option to acquire and repost something with little feat of repercussions True, some art that do contain signitures are cropped to remove the artist signature, But tagging your art is the best way to ensure that should you every submit your own DCMA, you will have a better chance of getting your stuff removed from free sites.

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2016 2:45:51 AM(UTC)
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I went nuts for quite awhile going after every place I could find that had boosted my images from here, and I never really had a problem getting my images removed from where ever they'd found their way to, but after awhile it was like playing internet whack a mole, I'd send a DMCA request, have image(s) removed and the next day, sometimes within hours, they'd find their way back up.
After playing this game for what felt like forever I finally gave up and realized the only way to keep my images from appearing all over the net was to not post them here at all.
Occasionally I'll do an image search just to see what's the most popular images from my gallery that are stolen.
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shadoman  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:40:23 PM(UTC)
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Why let a handful of Pirates stifle your creativity? Images in our free gallery are boosted every day, one in particular is Maartje24. Of course she is using another name but on her profile page at this free spot she claims to be from the Netherlands, Bisexual and born Sept 20 1985 countries. So it puts her at 31

She will post about 100 images @ three times per week and within the grouping are images from our site and a few others based on the theme she will use, BDMS or Fem dom...

Would be curios to know how many females registered her are from the Netherlands and if they have that birthdate on record here.

I have about a dozen comics and or short stories posted at some Russian site that boast they will never comply with any DMCA It older work that was boosted from another site and I simply live with it. However anything with a Renderotica Logo, or Premier Stamp or any of my newer comics posted over the last 3-4 years does not appear anywhere on the web and the few sites I do check will remove such work is a DCMA is issued.

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brookes  
#10 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:17:22 AM(UTC)
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It seems that the US government took down KAT yesterday afternoon. This is good news for those of us that support Daz and Poser content creators by actually buying stuff. I know that the pirate punks and kiddees will eventually gravitate to a new torrent site. I'm keeping my eye on Demonoid since this was the Poser\Daz hot spot before KAT became popular. You can bet I'll let the Doc (or is it just 'Doc') know what I find. Despite KAT's huge following and popularity, I don't think it'll return from this one.
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#11 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 3:18:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: brookes Go to Quoted Post
It seems that the US government took down KAT yesterday afternoon. This is good news for those of us that support Daz and Poser content creators by actually buying stuff. I know that the pirate punks and kiddees will eventually gravitate to a new torrent site. I'm keeping my eye on Demonoid since this was the Poser\Daz hot spot before KAT became popular. You can bet I'll let the Doc (or is it just 'Doc') know what I find. Despite KAT's huge following and popularity, I don't think it'll return from this one.


Nope. At least two Kat mirrors have popped up already. This seems to be a very expensive and particularly fruitless game of whack-a-mole.

brookes  
#12 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 3:44:35 PM(UTC)
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These KAT mirrors are just archives of very old stuff. There's no forums or mods. Some sleazy folks are trying to grab ad revenue. You can bet that everyone else is gonna be a LOT more careful from now on.
Your best source of news is here...https://torrentfreak.com/

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#13 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 9:17:38 PM(UTC)
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Trying to fight piracy is stupid anyway, in some countries its completely legal to do it and is not considered a crime or infringment. I lived in some of those places. I also don't care if people pirate my stuff, you can make way more
money working an actual job versus selling Digital product online. The only artist that make real bank on their art are the ones that get paid high commissions for it and earn a livable income off of it.

I use to pirate all the time back when I was in highschool when I was just a kid discovering the internet world to test products out before I paid for them
Especially since some vendors would take my shit, and if I wanted a refund they would violate refund policy and not give me my money back. That was becoming a major problem for me\ and still is one vendors not refunding me if I have issues with their product, especially if it was a vendor I was buying from all the time and supporting. I know for a fact I have probably spent at least over $4000 on products alone in less than 4 years. I've had lots of my stuff pirated and I never make a fuss about it, for many reasons. One I don't too much care, two if they live in a country that permits it, what can I do about it? Nothing.

When we get on the topic of piracy it's like this. There are always going to be pirates, and their are always going to be people that pirate and still buy what they pirate. Or people who just buy and never pirate at all.
If you live in a country that allows it, there is no point in throwing your hands up screaming "Law violation." How is it a violation if their law states that it isn't one? You can't expect everybody to follow the United States of America who wants to literately regulate life itself.

Its like I use to worry about my writing getting infringed and the only advice I got was if you want to keep it from getting stolen, dont' share it at all. The internet is FULL of pirated content from porn sites, to art sites, and so forth. It would be a huge waste of time to fight this unless all these sites got shut down entirely, and if that was the case...That would be a dick move because I am almost certain that everyone and I mean everyone streams and watches stuff free online including people that complain about being infringed. Not to mention VEVO has full songs on youtube to listen to whenever you want.
I'm one of them guys that pays for his items. My pirating days are over. But I refuse to support anyone that think they can overcharge me either. Because ripping someone off is no better than piracy but content creators never take that into account at all I hate it when people make assumptions that just because they made a product that means they have a right to overcharge for it.

I don't care how much work you put into it. Charging me $100 for a f*cking soda prop should be illegal, and yes Studio Max overcharges a lot more for its items because this is where I use to shop for items before I even knew what Poser/Daz was at the time. I can buy a vehicle off *deleted* for $12.00 but Studio Max? Nope, they charge $200 for some of their stuff, the same items you can get for way less off Daz or *deleted*. They might say "its because of the quality" I will counter it with "Yeah but Octane can even make cheap stuff look realistic when rendered, that's no excuse to charge me $140 for an ugly ass human figure, that Daz and Rendero sells plenty of for way less with lots more added to them like makeup, and eyes while yours is just well a plain model with a high price tag on it." . If that isn't cheating people out of money, I don't know what is. Also younger people aren't the only ones that do it. The U.S. Government pirates as well, look it up. Daz has also gone down that route, overcharging for base models like it's Genesis figures. That's one reason why I never switched to Genesis, they come out with a new model constantly and the prices are always too high. I've been wanting to jump to Genesis for ever but it's either pirate their sh*t, pay the BS prices, or stay with Generation 4 stuff, so I stick with Generation 4 stuff.

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#14 Posted : Sunday, July 24, 2016 12:40:06 AM(UTC)
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You know I have always sided with those who do battle against piracy.. Something that Renderotica is always on the lookout be it props, or comics.

What I do object as some have mentioned are the skyrocketing prices for software.. Why $800 for the general public and a student can get the same software for $250

This is why I still use Photoshop 6 for touch ups and post work..
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#15 Posted : Sunday, July 24, 2016 4:41:02 AM(UTC)
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You know I have always sided with those who do battle against piracy.. Something that Renderotica is always on the lookout be it props, or comics.
What I do object as some have mentioned are the skyrocketing prices for software.. Why $800 for the general public and a student can get the same software for $250
This is why I still use Photoshop 6 for touch ups and post work..



I have no time for immature and uneducated punks who use faulty logic to justify theft. If prices are too high, use FOSS stuff. My studio switched to Blender because 3DSMax became too expensive. Much of our workflow is Adobe based (PS, AE, and PP) but we're slowly working programs like Gimp into the flow. And like you, we didn't get on the CC bandwagon.
Pirate punks like to complain that Poser\Daz3D content is too expensive. They can always make their own items. It's quite a learning curve but the tools and tutorials are all free.


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#16 Posted : Sunday, July 24, 2016 6:21:40 AM(UTC)
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I have a mixed opinion about that. In general I do think "pirating" software and content is a crime, but as much as I go with it, I see an additional side to it. Or at least I did, because the scene might have changed during the years. Back in 90s, I knew people handing on illegaly downloaded software. I might would have never got to know Poser, if some People I knew whould have offered it to me. So I learned Poser and when I finally used it frequentley and felt the need to join a community, I purchased my first legal copy. Everyone else of those pirat kids having Poser on their hard drives, didn't do anything with it that matters. Twisting Poset's arm to a spiral, giggleing, tickeling with the cursor over her pubic parts - and that's it. Never did anything with it again.
The problem I think are not those sharing kids, the problem are those, who are selling those pirat copies and big companies making money with productions using ripped off software.
Anybody I've known who got seriousley interested in Poser did buy it sooner or later. I used to have content that I (re)purchased later as soon as I finally got me a credit Card.
All I can say is, having a legal copy of a software feels so much better. I even put more effort in learning a software when it is legally mine.
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#17 Posted : Sunday, July 24, 2016 12:33:22 PM(UTC)
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The Local Masonic temple used to rent out space to various promo shoes and at least once a month we had a computer fair.. It was here that a lot of pirated software was sold and one could tell the fakes from the legit stuff..

I bought my copy of Poser 3 there in a sealed box with the actual 325 page booklet. It was bundled with another 3D product and to be truthful I never cracked that box open..
I did purchase OEM video cards, and memory when the price was right, there were vendors there that actually built a computer for you based on your spec's in under an hour.

4 months after I bought Poser 3, Poser 4 was released and I bought it from the actual retailer online and have been doing so for almost every version.. I think I skipped P6 and my worst regret was buying P8 as that is about the time Smith Micro took over.. and from then on I bought only the Pro version of Poser

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#18 Posted : Sunday, July 24, 2016 12:36:51 PM(UTC)
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I used to have content that I (re)purchased later as soon as I finally got me a credit Card.
All I can say is, having a legal copy of a software feels so much better. I even put more effort in learning a software when it is legally mine.


I went the same way. I had a folder for stuff I used and stuff I paid for. Eventually I had bought everything I was using. I went to Daz because it was free and in the beginning, the underdog, which I've always supported. I'm now kinda stuck on Daz3D.


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#19 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2016 11:55:31 AM(UTC)
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You know I have always sided with those who do battle against piracy.. Something that Renderotica is always on the lookout be it props, or comics.

What I do object as some have mentioned are the skyrocketing prices for software.. Why $800 for the general public and a student can get the same software for $250

This is why I still use Photoshop 6 for touch ups and post work..


I decided that I"m stopping with CS5 because I see no reason to pay a monthly licensing fee to the money-grabbing whores at Adobe. That's ridiculous: the updates havent been all that for quite a while.



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#20 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2016 2:59:31 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: shadoman Go to Quoted Post
You know I have always sided with those who do battle against piracy.. Something that Renderotica is always on the lookout be it props, or comics.

What I do object as some have mentioned are the skyrocketing prices for software.. Why $800 for the general public and a student can get the same software for $250

This is why I still use Photoshop 6 for touch ups and post work..


I decided that I"m stopping with CS5 because I see no reason to pay a monthly licensing fee to the money-grabbing whores at Adobe. That's ridiculous: the updates havent been all that for quite a while.





God I forgot about software with monthly fee's MS is always asking me to subscribe to Office.. I have the 2007 version and that serves me up just fine..
I finally allowed my Prime membership to expire at *deleted* as well... whats the use of getting notices of new prime products when they are all for DAZ Studio items.. *deleted*has in most ways gone the route of RDNA.. Although they have not merged with DAZ like RDNA did, You may a well call*deleted* DAZ 3D version 2
Now nothing against the vendors mind you.. they need to make money however they can.... but I do not see*deleted*asking known Vendors who have posted poser work in the past to create something for both formats..

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