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xaqq  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:22:20 PM(UTC)
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Hi, i'm relatively new to daz especially for adult content use. I  normally use daz for concept art stuff (exporting model into zbrush and c4d for octane renders) but this is my first forray into attempting to use it to create some 3d porn of my choice.


let me apologize ahead of time for my ignorance, but i have a three major questions:


1) is there any boobs/butt physics plugins? i know there are soft body plugins/deformers but those arent actually physics generated things. does the new dforce physics simulation update for daz work for breasts and other body parts? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHj2t7ThkSA) I want to make animations with bounce physics but it seems like that can only be hand animated with deformers as far as i've seen. I've seen what people have done in affect3d and i've always been curious on how they did the breast bouncing stuff.


2) anyone know where i can get female face morphs, i'm looking for some realistic asian ones that look something like this: http://www.renderotica.com/getattachment/d3f31d0b-0891-4c8d-b3ab-5fd52d3d54c6/04.jpg.aspx                                    or if i want to get these results and the answer is i have to sculpt it myself, how would i go about getting a head mesh translated onto a daz model...


3) i'm looking to get the bodies models to look somewhat like this guy's work: http://v1z3t4.tumblr.com/                   my guess is you have to use a combination of body morphs out there? if so do any of u have any reccomendations?

ProtocolZero  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, November 8, 2017 9:33:51 PM(UTC)
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DAZ just released DS version 4.10, which includes their dForce physics system. Right now, it's only being used to implement dynamic cloth effects, but they expect that it will be upgraded in future releases to incorporate other features (I'm guessing dynamic hair, multiple collisions and self-collision, etc.). I don't know of any bounce system for DAZ (I know that there were some for Poser, but I don't use Poser), but I would imagine that dForce would be able to manage something to that effect in the not-too-distant future. I'd say in the near term, your best options would still be to learn how to use deformers or how to create custom morphs in another app like ZBrush.

As for Asian morphs, you're in luck: Dogz just released "Asia Dials n' Smiles for Genesis 8 Female(s)" (https://www.daz3d.com/asia-dials-n-smiles-for-genesis-8-female-s). If you're using an older figure like G2F, Tengu23 has a product called "Dial-a-Girl - Tokyo Edition" (https://www.daz3d.com/dial-a-girl-tokyo-edition), and 3D-GHDesign has one called "Mongolian Beauty - HD Faces and Morphs" (https://www.daz3d.com/mongolian-beauty-hd-faces-and-morphs).

I don't have a tumblr account (and I don't really feel like creating one), so I can't see the image you linked for the body example.

Hope that helps.
xaqq  
#3 Posted : Thursday, November 9, 2017 5:38:57 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ProtocolZero Go to Quoted Post
DAZ just released DS version 4.10, which includes their dForce physics system. Right now, it's only being used to implement dynamic cloth effects, but they expect that it will be upgraded in future releases to incorporate other features (I'm guessing dynamic hair, multiple collisions and self-collision, etc.). I don't know of any bounce system for DAZ (I know that there were some for Poser, but I don't use Poser), but I would imagine that dForce would be able to manage something to that effect in the not-too-distant future. I'd say in the near term, your best options would still be to learn how to use deformers or how to create custom morphs in another app like ZBrush.

As for Asian morphs, you're in luck: Dogz just released "Asia Dials n' Smiles for Genesis 8 Female(s)" (https://www.daz3d.com/asia-dials-n-smiles-for-genesis-8-female-s). If you're using an older figure like G2F, Tengu23 has a product called "Dial-a-Girl - Tokyo Edition" (https://www.daz3d.com/dial-a-girl-tokyo-edition), and 3D-GHDesign has one called "Mongolian Beauty - HD Faces and Morphs" (https://www.daz3d.com/mongolian-beauty-hd-faces-and-morphs).

I don't have a tumblr account (and I don't really feel like creating one), so I can't see the image you linked for the body example.

Hope that helps.


awesome! thank you for the response and explanation. i have one more question though, do g3 stuff work on g8? some victoria poses in teh past have worked on g3 figures so i'm just wondering if g8 has some backwards compatibility on certain things such as wet skin texture plugins or boob deformers. I just downloaded some g3 breast enlarging deformers and was wondering if they'd work on g8 females?


ProtocolZero  
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:36:26 PM(UTC)
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I have both G3F and G8F, but I haven't played with G8F much yet. Still, according to DAZ, G8F is supposed to be the most backward-compatible figure ever marketed. She is supposed to be able to use G3F's textures right out of the box (no conversion necessary), and pretty much any hair or clothing item for G3F can be auto-fitted to her. All of the G3F poses I've used on her have worked just fine, as good as or maybe better then G2F's worked on G3F, and certainly better than Genesis's worked on G2F.

As far as G3F morphs working on G8F, I couldn't tell you. I know that 3feetwolf's New Gens for G3F had an update that allowed it to be used on G8F, and then he marketed a G8F-specific version of it a short while later. Morph makers like Zev0 and Thorne/Handspan Studios have already put out multiple products that should allow you to customize the way she looks however you might want. I'm not sure how closely G3F and G8F's meshes compare (tho' I would imagine they're pretty darn close), but I would think that in order to get a G3F-specific morph to work with G8F might involve importing their geometry out to ZBrush or Blender or some other app for some editing. Dimension3D used to make a product that would allow different DAZ figures to swap morphs, but if I'm not mistaken, he/she passed away, and there hasn't been a new version or update since shortly after G3F and G3M arrived, and I don't know of anyone who might be planning to pick up where Dimension3D left off.

If you're really planning on getting into doing 3DX with DAZ figures, I'd suggest joining their Platinum Club -- it really does pay for itself. It's on sale right now, and you can pick up content at pretty steep discounts (or even free at times).

Later...
nightwolf1982  
#5 Posted : Friday, November 10, 2017 4:55:09 AM(UTC)
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Here are my absolute necessities by figure:

DAZ - Head/Body Morphs (ALL Figures)
- Victoria 5, 6, 7, 8 Pro Bundles
- Michael 5, 6, 7, 8 Pro Bundles

Genesis:
Zev0 - Belly Control
Growing Up
Shape Shift
Toe Control
Skin Builder Pro
Vascularity HD

Tigerfish - TR Real Gens for Genesis Female Genital

SF-Design - SFD's Pose and Control for M5/Genesis Male Genital

3feetwolf - New Genitalia for Victoria 5

Genesis 2:
Zev0 - Belly Control
Breast Control
Glute Control
Growing Up
Shape Shift
Skin Builder Pro
Tongue Control
Vascularity HD

Xameva - Ultimate Breasts Shapes

Tigerfish - Real Gens for G2F

SF-Design - SFD's Pose and Control for M6/Genesis 2 Male Genital

3feetwolf - New Genitalia for Victoria 6 - 2.0

Genesis 3:
Zev0 - Bend Control
- Breast Control
- Growing Up
- Growing Up Skin MR w/ Adult Add-On
- Shape Shift
- Skin Builder 3
- Vascularity HD

Xameva - Ultimate Breast Morphs

Tigerfish - Real Gens 3 for G3F

SF-Design - Easy Control for Genesis 3 Male Genital

3feetwolf - New Gens for Victoria 7 w/ ALL Updates

Meipe - Futalicious for Genesis 3 Female
- Roasty Add-On for Genesis 3 Female (REQUIRES Futalicious)
- Dicktator for Genesis 3 Male
- Shell Master for Futalicious and Dicktator

Genesis 8:
Zev0 - 200 Plus Head and Face Morphs
- Bend Control
- Breast Control
- Glute Control
- Growing Up
- Shape Shift
- Skin Builder (Upcoming)
- Vascularity HD

SF-Design - Easy Control for Genesis 8 Male Genital

3feetwolf - New Gens for Victoria 8

Meipe - Golden Palace for Genesis 8 Female
- Futalicious for Genesis 8 Female
- Dicktator for Genesis 8 Male

Whew! That's a long list! While some of these are obvious, I'll explain those I think aren't:

The Pro Bundles - These are strictly for the genitalia that come with them. While I've listed other genitalia that are better all-around, the DAZ gens are still good enough for full body shots that don't require a lot of detail.

The Growing Up products - While these are primarily intended for creating young characters, they're also useful for creating petite adult figures. Not every woman is a voluptuous DD sex goddess!

The Futalicious products - Depending on what kind of porn you're going for, these are a great choice for more alternative/extreme stuff.
xaqq  
#6 Posted : Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:40:03 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nightwolf1982 Go to Quoted Post
Here are my absolute necessities by figure:

DAZ - Head/Body Morphs (ALL Figures)
- Victoria 5, 6, 7, 8 Pro Bundles
- Michael 5, 6, 7, 8 Pro Bundles

Genesis:
Zev0 - Belly Control
Growing Up
Shape Shift
Toe Control
Skin Builder Pro
Vascularity HD

Tigerfish - TR Real Gens for Genesis Female Genital

SF-Design - SFD's Pose and Control for M5/Genesis Male Genital

3feetwolf - New Genitalia for Victoria 5

Genesis 2:
Zev0 - Belly Control
Breast Control
Glute Control
Growing Up
Shape Shift
Skin Builder Pro
Tongue Control
Vascularity HD

Xameva - Ultimate Breasts Shapes

Tigerfish - Real Gens for G2F

SF-Design - SFD's Pose and Control for M6/Genesis 2 Male Genital

3feetwolf - New Genitalia for Victoria 6 - 2.0

Genesis 3:
Zev0 - Bend Control
- Breast Control
- Growing Up
- Growing Up Skin MR w/ Adult Add-On
- Shape Shift
- Skin Builder 3
- Vascularity HD

Xameva - Ultimate Breast Morphs

Tigerfish - Real Gens 3 for G3F

SF-Design - Easy Control for Genesis 3 Male Genital

3feetwolf - New Gens for Victoria 7 w/ ALL Updates

Meipe - Futalicious for Genesis 3 Female
- Roasty Add-On for Genesis 3 Female (REQUIRES Futalicious)
- Dicktator for Genesis 3 Male
- Shell Master for Futalicious and Dicktator

Genesis 8:
Zev0 - 200 Plus Head and Face Morphs
- Bend Control
- Breast Control
- Glute Control
- Growing Up
- Shape Shift
- Skin Builder (Upcoming)
- Vascularity HD

SF-Design - Easy Control for Genesis 8 Male Genital

3feetwolf - New Gens for Victoria 8

Meipe - Golden Palace for Genesis 8 Female
- Futalicious for Genesis 8 Female
- Dicktator for Genesis 8 Male

Whew! That's a long list! While some of these are obvious, I'll explain those I think aren't:

The Pro Bundles - These are strictly for the genitalia that come with them. While I've listed other genitalia that are better all-around, the DAZ gens are still good enough for full body shots that don't require a lot of detail.

The Growing Up products - While these are primarily intended for creating young characters, they're also useful for creating petite adult figures. Not every woman is a voluptuous DD sex goddess!

The Futalicious products - Depending on what kind of porn you're going for, these are a great choice for more alternative/extreme stuff.


wow so nice! thank you for this extensive list and help. so i spent the last few days messing extensively with daz and trying to make some content, but I have a few new questions arising from all this.


Daz has amazing customizability, but it's pitfall for someone like me is that it's slow. creating an animation is without a doubt a huge endeavor every time due to render times. So i've been trying out Octane render plugin (which i use for C4d for work) on DAZ but skin always doesnt look as good even though it does run faster at a very nominal level, its basically faster by just enough that i could notice the difference but really all 3d renders take forever to render any animation sequence. 


Keep in mind i'm actually just creating content for my own enjoyment and right now the workflow seems to be that daz is currently 90% waiting/working and 10% fapping XD. I guess what i'm trying to say is i'm looking for a faster work method with daz. So I've been thinking about daz to unreal engine-- like make your character model with the morphs in daz and then send it over into unreal for animations and such, and since its a game engine it runs in real time i can save a shitton of time on the rendering without losing that much in quality. But the problem with that idea is from as far as i can see, there is barely any porn content support for UE 4(which is surprising!) so, unless u can tell me where the hidden porn content/animations are in UE4 shops, i'm basically stuck here without any great solution. Maybe Unity Engine is an alternative but i dont think unity has any one selling adult content and assets either, BUT I have seen this game wiht pretty impressive sex animations and good overall adult content that's been made with Unity and is clearly using DAZ 3d Models for his characters: http://games.eekllc.com/


So currently i've just been tryign to make octane work better for me in daz, but the main problem i run into with octane/daz is the lack of people using it. I'm relatively familiar with graph node editors, and i've been messing with that stuff extensively, but i've been having problems trying to get nice SSS skin results in Octane that u could get straight off the bat in IRay. Do u know any easy to understand guides or anyone who's been using octane in Daz that i could ask? I just need someone to help me out with a good skin setup cuz currently my iray skin renders are destroying octane's, i have no idea how to get a realistic SSS with oily/glossy effects in the node editor working. With Iray it's easy, just plop that wet skin plugin from daz shop onto the character and blam! u got ez pz oily/glossy/wet/dripping skin with all the SSS glory. Octane- now u gotta mess for hours in the node editor and if u don't know exactly what ur doing (which i certainly don't) ur screwed.

Edited by user Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:47:00 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

ProtocolZero  
#7 Posted : Saturday, November 11, 2017 10:54:24 PM(UTC)
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I'm sorry, I haven't done animation in DS or used Octane, so I'm not going to be able to help you with either topic. My advice would be to post those questions on DAZ's forums -- if someone here can't help you, certainly someone there should be able to. (Might not want to mention that it's for 3DX, tho' -- DAZ can be touchy about what topics they'll allow there.) Good luck...


P.S. You might also try some of the groups on DeviantArt -- there are multiple for DS and Octane, and someone there might be able to help, too.

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